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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Speaking as a developer myself, it's likely not the devs' fault that Teams is as shit as it is. They are all intimately familiar with its shortcomings and are perfectly able and willing to fix them, but are prevented from doing so by management who insist that shovelling crapware down their customers' throats is far more important.

[–] dejected_warp_core 3 points 5 hours ago

Honestly, what I find frustrating with Teams is that both MSN Messenger and Skype were right there. It's not even an issue of copyright or trademark as MS owns both. Even just lazily re-branding Skype would have been head-and-shoulders above what we have now.

[–] raspberriesareyummy 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Then again, in a world that needs developers badly everywhere, a developer that stays in a job where management forces them to maintain crappy software, is an idiot (or plain greedy). /also a developer

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The job market is pretty shit for a world that supposedly needs developers everywhere.

[–] SoftestSapphic 1 points 2 hours ago

We need them badly, just not enough to pay not shit wages

[–] raspberriesareyummy 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Not in Europe - for now. Will be different of course if fascist America murders us all over here. Or Putler. Doesn't make much of a difference in the end...

[–] Manifish_Destiny 53 points 11 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Written by someone who has no idea how software gets made.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Teams is one of those things I don't understand why companies use. Just why

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Because they needed a way to attempt to micromanage during COVID, and to do it ASAP.

[–] marcos 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Teams has even an internal micromanager that reports to your boss how "productive" you have been (read, how fast you are typing in Office apps).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have a source on this?

[–] FelixCress 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Almost certainly. If people saw how little I actually do on most days I wouldn't have a job. I just call myself then switch my status back to available so my dot stays green all day.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 hours ago

Because it's bundled in their office subscriptions

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago

Microsoft bundles all of their software in a way that makes it much more expensive to pick and choose which software you want from Microsoft and which one you would want from someone else. It's a very similar strategy to that of Adobe.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim 5 points 9 hours ago

Because it's essentially free and hooks into the existing MS tools for data retention, data loss prevention, security monitoring, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

lead developer for Skype would get any estonian to accept

[–] TBi 3 points 8 hours ago

When teams first came out it was good. And Skype was crap.

I think when they killed Skype they pulled that team in to help Teams which led to the current situation.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

What a pile of garbage. That we rely on teams at my org causes me endless frustration.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

We are using Zoom, not sure which is worst.

[–] Juvyn00b 1 points 4 hours ago

The only real issue I have with zoom is how it immediately dumps you into the call with your previous settings. Sometimes (most times) I'd rather start with the microphone muted. I'm not a regular user though, just when third party meetings get kicked off.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago

Why does it have to be so heavy

[–] dabu 31 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

What else could he say to not be thrown out? Dude works at Microsoft

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

"I worked on Space Cadet."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Doesn't windows have a software repository type thing now that attempts to do the whole Linux thing?

Or maybe a developer for Excel? People seem to like Excel.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 13 hours ago

Bloated piece of shit. Can we just use Matrix?

[–] Illegalmexicant 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I used Planner in the past. Its integration with teams makes a webcam pointed at a white board a lot better.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

Planner can no longer be connected to outlook and thus probably no longer to teams as well. Though I am not exactly sure a fan of any of these, connecting Planner was helpful.

[–] Fades 7 points 14 hours ago

Especially the mobile app, fucking trash

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