raspberriesareyummy

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[–] raspberriesareyummy 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Until the next corrupt politician... but yeah, let's hope Linux stays, this time around.

[–] raspberriesareyummy 14 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Nope, not Germany. The city of Munich, and it was rolled back because a politician took Microsoft bribes and drank the Microsoft snake oil.

[–] raspberriesareyummy -1 points 19 hours ago

It was a suborbital flight. They never accelerated to the orbital speed, hence the apogee was ballistic and upon "reentry", the vehicle only experienced negligible heatup. A real atmospheric reentry from orbit is the biggest technological challenge in return vehicles, and they still have to do that with Starship

[–] raspberriesareyummy -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The hardest part of a real orbit is not burning up on re-entry. They skipped that part so far, for their most fragile rocket.

[–] raspberriesareyummy 1 points 4 days ago

Stupid title. LLM are less AI than a trivial control loop

[–] raspberriesareyummy 19 points 4 days ago

All religions are moronic bullshit. People are free to believe what they like, no one has a need for rules that tell them how to believe.

[–] raspberriesareyummy 4 points 4 days ago

Those are certainly words. Maybe you should stick to painting with crayons, though - the result might make more sense.

[–] raspberriesareyummy 2 points 5 days ago

Not all thoughts are original.

Agreed, and I am also 100% opposed to SW patents. No matter what I wrote, if someone came up with the same idea on their own, and finds out about my implementation later, I absolutely do not expect them to credit me. In the use case you describe, I do not see a problem of using other people's work in a license breaking way. I do however see a waste of time - you have to triple check everything an LLM spits out - and energy (ref: MS trying to buy / restart a nuclear reactor to power their LLM hardware).

Further, whether I should be at fault for LLM vendors who may be breaking copyright law, is like trying to make a case for me being at fault for murder because I drive a car when car manufacturers lobby to the effect that people die more.

If you drive a car on "autopilot" and get someone killed, you are absolutely at fault for murder. Not in the legal sense, because fuck capitalism, but absolutely in the moral sense. Also, there's legal precedent in a different example: https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/criminal-defense/can-you-get-arrested-for-buying-stolen-goods/

If you unknowingly buy stolen (fenced) goods, if found out, you will have to return them to the rightful owner without getting your money back - that you would then have to try and get back from the vendor.

In the case of license agreements, you would still be participant to a license violation - and if you consider a piece of code that would be well-recognizable, just think about the following thought experiment:

Assume someone trained the LLM on some source code Disney uses for whatever. Your code gets autocompleted with that and you publish it, and Disney finds out about it. Do you honestly think that the evil motherfuckers at Disney would stop at anything short of having your head served on a silver platter?

[–] raspberriesareyummy 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Troll elsewhere, dipshit.

[–] raspberriesareyummy 1 points 5 days ago

oh yeah, those for sure!

[–] raspberriesareyummy 2 points 5 days ago

You are right. My apologies, and my congratulations for finding the correct "tone" to respond to me ;) The thing is, I am absolutely fed up with especially the bullshit about snake oil vendors selling LLMs as "AI", and I am much more fed up with corporations on a large scale getting away with - since it's for profit - what I guess must already be called theft of intellectual property.

When people then use said LLMs to "develop software", I'm kind of convinced they are about as gone mentally as the MAGA cult and sometimes I just want to vent. However, I chose the word parasite for a reason, because it's a parasitic way of working: they use the work of other people, which for more specific algorithms, an LLM will reproduce more or less verbatim, while causing harm to such people by basically copy-pasting such code while omitting the license statement - thereby releasing such code (if open source) into the "wild" with an illegally(*) modified license.

  • illegal of course only in such countries whose legal system respects copyright and license texts in the first place

Considering on top the damage done to the environment by the insane energy consumption for little to no gain, people should not be using LLMs at all. Not even outside coding. This is just another way to contribute missing our climate goals by a wide margin. Wasting energy like this - basically because people are too lazy to think for themselves - actually gets people killed due to extreme weather events.

So yeah, you have a valid point, but also, I am fed up with the egocentric bullshit world that social media has created and that has culminated in what will soon be a totalitarian regime in the country that once brought peace to Europe by defeating the Nazis and doing a PROPER reeducation of the people. Hooray for going off on a tangent...

[–] raspberriesareyummy -2 points 6 days ago

Ah, I guess I'll have to question why I am lying to myself then. Don't be a douchebag. Don't use open source without respecting copyrights & licenses. The authors are already providing their work for free. Don't shit on that legacy.

 

I am on a binge, listening to tons of Nigerian, Ugandan and Kenian music, and I am absolutely loving it. Why is this not playing on our (Western European) radio stations regularly?

Instead I have to regularly change stations because someone is trying to torture my ears with Ed Sheeran or similar BS. :(

 

Hadn't seen this before - I wonder if that was once on the potato outside and then grew closed?

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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by raspberriesareyummy to c/[email protected]
 

Ich bin nicht mit Allem einverstanden, was mein 18-jähriges Ich verbrochen hat, aber für diese Gewissenserklärung werde ich mich niemals schämen.

 

Hey everyone! I wanted to post my guide / experiences from the past years here - this is not strictly Zabbix, but SNMP (which Zabbix could monitor), and in C++, but I think given that lemmy isn't yet huge, I'd rather have the post in a space with more topics, than an isolated 1-user-community. See below.

End 2022, I had finally gotten around to creating a standalone SNMP agent with a lot of demo-functionality. I will post the link / instructions for that in a separate comment below.

#Getting started with net-snmp in C++

I am trying to work myself into the use of net-snmp (on a Linux system, but ideally in a way compatible to mingw/gcc on Windows). Unfortunately, the net-snmp documentation as per http://www.net-snmp.org/ seems to be very lacking. There are coding tutorials, which at some point refer you to an empty section in the wiki that you "should read before continuing" (This one here: Writing_a_MIB_Module). So I am down to a lot of web (re)searching and trial & error.

The aim of this post is to end up with a step-by-step approach that accomplishes the following:

  • Installation & configuration of all required software packages on a debian system (for starters)
  • Clarification of the relevant snmp terminology used in this step-by-step guide
  • Making the example executables (or modified versions thereof) from the net-snmp.org coding tutorials work to
    • request a specific value by existing snmp object identifiers (OIDs) with a targeted instruction
    • request a list of OIDs listed in an array, from multiple hosts
    • create & use a custom management information base (MIB)
    • create a custom snmp agent that can serve requests for OIDs defined in that custom MIB
    • create a simple monitoring application that can cyclically request certain OIDs from the custom agent

The final demo implementation will be a "hello world" of sorts for SNMP, wherein the custom snmp agent reports it's application "health" (e.g. process id, process name, a timestamp and a cyclic counter / heartbeat) via the custom MIB, and the monitoring application monitors the health of that custom agent on the console (as opposed to having to set up s.t. more complicated like zabbix).

Please bear with me, as I am stuck on the custom agent for now. I have to solve this problem, however, and I will update this post with my solution. Help is very much appreciated!

So - without further ado, here is my current status:

Package installation:

# force installation of snmpd with default /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
sudo apt install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confask,confnew,confmiss" snmpd

# force installation of default /etc/snmp/snmp.conf
sudo apt install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confask,confnew,confmiss" libsnmp-base

# install snmp and snmp-mibs-downloader
sudo aptitude install snmp snmp-mibs-downloader
# Note: former net-snmp-utils files are now all included in package snmp

Package configuration:

# comment out the "mibs :" line in snmp.conf (TBC: forgot why I did this :( )
sudo sed -i 's/^mibs :$/#mibs :/' /etc/snmp/snmp.conf

# nothing else for the moment

Activate configuration changes (if any)

sudo /etc/init.d/snmpd restart

#Test package configuration:

snmpwalk -v 2c -c public localhost
# a bunch of output about localhost will follow

Explanation: snmpwalk checks the destination (localhost) for all available OIDs and requests them once.

Note: Option values can be separated by space or not at all, so -v 1 and -v1 is equivalent.

Option -v is the snmp protocol version, -v1 or -v2c work. Disclaimer: -v3 requires authentication logic that I have not yet figured out. Option -c sets the "community" string - which I have not quite figured out yet, but "public" is good for accessing OIDs that do not require a password.

Speculation: I believe the community string is simply correlated to how certain OIDs are registered in the snmp master agent (daemon) and you can only access them through the configured community.

Manual request of an OID on the command line:

snmptest -v 2c -c public localhost

This will open a request prompt, on which you can enter the OID / variable identifier of anything you previously saw on the output of snmpwalk. Multiple variables can be requested at once. E.g.:

Variable: SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr.0
Variable: SNMPv2-MIB::sysORID.1
Variable: 

In order to submit (send) the request, you have to enter an empty line. When you are done, exit snmptest with CTRL-C. Now that we are done with the installation & configuration, it is time to get the demo applications running.

Getting ready for the net-snmp coding tutorial:

I have downloaded the following files from the coding tutorial subsections here:

asyncapp.c
example-daemon.c # called example-demon.c there, I renamed it
Makefile
NET-SNMP-TUTORIAL-MIB.txt
nstAgentModuleObject.c
nstAgentModuleObject.h
nstAgentPluginObject.c
nstAgentPluginObject.h
nstAgentSubagentObject.c
nstAgentSubagentObject.h
snmpdemoapp
snmpdemoapp.c

These files were not created by me and I take no credit for them. I have, however, modified these files to fit my personal preference of C code formatting, and to add comments and better understand what is going on - and also to fix some incompatibilities with my system and change them to use SNMP_VERSION_2c so I could get a working software before I have to study the authentication logic of version 3.

I have uploaded my modified version of the tutorial files here (link valid only until 2020-05-20, I'll upload it elsewhere if someone knows a good free filehoster): 2020-05-06-net-snmp-coding-tutorial.tgz

Please review the code before compiling stuff some random stranger gave you ;)

You need to copy the tutorial MIB file to a place where your snmpd (the master agent) will find it:

sudo cp NET-SNMP-TUTORIAL-MIB.txt /usr/share/snmp/mibs/

Testing whether the MIB file is found by the snmp applications:

# snmptranslate -m +NET-SNMP-TUTORIAL-MIB -IR -On nstAgentModuleObject
# (the above has the same effect as the below)
snmptranslate -On NET-SNMP-TUTORIAL-MIB::nstAgentModuleObject

This should output

.1.3.6.1.4.1.8072.2.4.1.1.1

Compiling and executing the tutorial files:

Disclaimer: As of today (2020-05-05), I have only managed to successfully use the snmpdemoapp and the asyncapp - the other apps are still untested / non-functional in this version.

When you execute "make" in the folder with your source files & the Makefile, you will get two warnings

example-daemon.c:50:3: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘init_vacm_vars’; did you mean ‘init_vacm’? [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
   init_vacm_vars();
   ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   init_vacm
example-daemon.c:51:3: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘init_usmUser’; did you mean ‘init_usm’? [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
   init_usmUser();
   ^~~~~~~~~~~~
   init_usm

I have not yet figured out if this code is intentionally referring to unknown functions, and whether or not this is functional or a failure. Let's ignore it for now.

After building the executables, you can test:

./snmpdemoapp 
SNMPv2-MIB::sysORDescr.3 = STRING: The SNMP Management Architecture MIB.
value #1 is a string: The SNMP Management Architecture MIB.

and

./asyncapp 
---------- synchronous -----------
23:25:47.095474 localhost: SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr.0 = STRING: Linux YOURHOSTNAME <YOUR OS VERSION AND ARCHITECTURE>
23:25:47.095637 localhost: SNMPv2-MIB::sysORDescr.1 = STRING: The MIB for Message Processing and Dispatching.
23:25:47.095758 localhost: SNMPv2-MIB::sysORDescr.2 = STRING: The management information definitions for the SNMP User-based Security Model.
23:25:47.095961 localhost: SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr.0 = STRING: Linux YOURHOSTNAME <YOUR OS VERSION AND ARCHITECTURE>
23:25:47.096076 localhost: SNMPv2-MIB::sysORDescr.1 = STRING: The MIB for Message Processing and Dispatching.
23:25:47.096199 localhost: SNMPv2-MIB::sysORDescr.2 = STRING: The management information definitions for the SNMP User-based Security Model.
---------- asynchronous -----------
23:25:47.096538 localhost: SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr.0 = STRING: Linux YOURHOSTNAME <YOUR OS VERSION AND ARCHITECTURE>
23:25:47.096657 localhost: SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr.0 = STRING: Linux YOURHOSTNAME <YOUR OS VERSION AND ARCHITECTURE>
23:25:47.096769 localhost: SNMPv2-MIB::sysORDescr.1 = STRING: The MIB for Message Processing and Dispatching.
23:25:47.096877 localhost: SNMPv2-MIB::sysORDescr.1 = STRING: The MIB for Message Processing and Dispatching.
23:25:47.096986 localhost: SNMPv2-MIB::sysORDescr.2 = STRING: The management information definitions for the SNMP User-based Security Model.
23:25:47.097036 localhost: SNMPv2-MIB::sysORDescr.2 = STRING: The management information definitions for the SNMP User-based Security Model.

Now you can modify the snmpdemoapp.c and the asyncapp.c to include / request different hosts / OIDs. Please note that I have requested the same OIDs from localhost twice in asyncapp.c to allow this tutorial executable to function without any further host ready on the network and to demonstrate the sync vs. async behavior.

Edit 2020-05-06: Progress - I got a subagent registered (for now, only as root user :( ) and running as expected:

Configure a community "tutorial" that we can use to access our tutorial MIB

# configuring a community with access rights to custom MIB(s)
# Source: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/463969/snmp-no-such-object-available-on-this-agent-at-this-oid

# it appears that the common path is .1.3.6.1 and then custom MIBs have the .4 branch (TBC)

# add a custom community permitting read access to our tutorial MIB
echo "" > new-communities-for-snmpd.conf
echo "# custom communities" >> new-communities-for-snmpd.conf
echo "rocommunity tutorial  127.0.0.1 .1.3.6.1.4 # TBC: branch for custom mibs" >> new-communities-for-snmpd.conf
cat new-communities-for-snmpd.conf | sudo tee -a /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
rm new-communities-for-snmpd.conf

Restart the snmpd daemon to load the new config:

sudo service snmpd restart

Build tutorial executables:

make

Attempt to retrieve an OID handled by the example daemon

snmpget -v 2c -c tutorial localhost NET-SNMP-TUTORIAL-MIB::nstAgentSubagentObject.0

Since the daemon is not yet running, this will fail: "NET-SNMP-TUTORIAL-MIB::nstAgentSubagentObject.0 = No Such Object available on this agent at this OID"

Start the tutorial subagent:

sudo ./example-daemon -f

Open a second console and attempt to retrieve the OID as above:

snmpget -v 2c -c tutorial localhost NET-SNMP-TUTORIAL-MIB::nstAgentSubagentObject.0

This time, the request should succeed: "NET-SNMP-TUTORIAL-MIB::nstAgentSubagentObject.0 = INTEGER: 2"

Check the first terminal (where the example-daemon is running), it should say

hello world!

This message was triggered by the handler function handler_nstAgentSubagentObject installed in nstAgentSubagentObject.c

/* Function: handler_nstAgentSubagentObject
 * Purpose: callback handler for the request to an OID of this subagent
 * 
 */
int handler_nstAgentSubagentObject(
	netsnmp_mib_handler *mibHandler,
	netsnmp_handler_registration *handlerRegistration,
	netsnmp_agent_request_info *agentRequestInfo,
	netsnmp_request_info *requestInfo
)
{
	printf( "hello world!\n" );

	return 0;
}

The handler function is registered as a callback handler in the call to netsnmp_register_long_instance.

From here on, this is all work in progress. Next steps:

  • create a handler routine that will work with snmpwalk & allow to see all OIDs identified for a certain community
  • create a custom MIB with sample application telemetry
  • create a handler routine that will update the OID values as part of the snmp agent (e.g. by interacting with a separate application thread that keeps updated telemetry in a struct)
  • create a monitoring application that periodically checks the content of the custom MIB and displays it on the console
  • somewhere along the way: figure out how to run all this as non-root user!!

I stand by my original comment: The state of documentation of this de-facto standard in worldwide networking equipment has me baffled. It is embarrassingly shitty.

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