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[–] MintyFresh 3 points 57 minutes ago

Phone calls used to be better when they were analog land lines. The fidelity(idk if that's the right word, but go ahead and catch my drift) was amazing.

You could hear every breath, every intonation in voice, every shift in body language. I think our subconscious works on stuff like that a lot more than anyone cares to admit. Every phone conversation you've had in the past 10 years has been digitally compressed.

The headsets themselves were ergonomic. Easy to use, fit the face and head alot better than the phones we use nowadays.

[–] zhill29 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] MTK 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

No no, teams is number 1

Because it is only on my work computer that I shutdown when I'm done

[–] ininewcrow 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

And if you really don't want me to call you or call you back .... text, email or send me a message that says

CALL ME

That is the single most disgusting uninteresting uninformative and ugliest thing that anyone can text me. You can text me a dick pick, ransom demands, blackmail images, racist crap or gore pictures of something and I wouldn't complain and probably might even respond to you ... but if you just text me 'CALL ME', I'm blocking your number or contact and never answering anything from you again.

[–] Stern 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I want shit that leaves a record so when someone pulls a "I didn't say red", I can pull out the text or DM or whatever, and say, "So when you said red here was it that special red that's actually blue?"

[–] nyamlae 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Do the people around you do that a lot?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

You'd be surprised how often honest disagreements arise from bad recollection. It doesn't have to be ill-willed: we've all had the experience remembering a shared conversation completely differently from the person we had it with.

[–] CaptPretentious 10 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

For me I hate phone calls because it's someone demanding I drop what I'm doing to address whatever they want. Keep in mind, 99% of phone calls I get are at work form co-workers.

The number of "quick calls" that are actually quick I can count on 1 hand, and still have room for more. I have tasks to accomplish, things to do. And I'm spread so thin between all the things I do, there's a fair chance I'm going to forget something about what you asked/told me. If it's in text form I can review it when I loop back to it. You need me to check/validate/run something, cool. I have record of what, when, and if I completed it. Just because you have a question does not make it an emergency on my part.

As for my home phone, the only folks who ever call me are either telemarketers or scams. If a friend called I'd probably answer (if I have the time). But I think most of my friends are in the same boat, we have so much to do these days (non-recreation) that it's just not easy to find time. A lot of my friends have side-hustles or a second job or are in class (like me) in order to stay competitive. When I was a kid, I remember my parents could unwind at the end of the day, friends would just come over to hang out. It just ain't like that no more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Just because you have a question does not make it an emergency on my part.

This is it for me. If someone is an auditory processor, or needs a more nuanced conversation in order to understand something, I sympathize. But not everyone is like that. Just send a quick message asking to chat (or better yet, find time on my calendar if it's for work), and then I can prepare what I know on the subject, review it, and get back to you.

Otherwise you're going to get an ear full of ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm
uhhhhh hmm
hang on, I was just
hang on, just loooking that upp....
click
scroll
scroll
click
click
scroll
scrolllll
Right, so
(silence while I'm reading)
Right, uh, so
Okay
It was last Tuesday
Was that it?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 hours ago (7 children)

Why are people so offended over the fact there are some ppl who don't like phone calls? 🤷‍♀️ who cares

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

People who are so used to getting everyone to stop what they're doing get upset when they aren't the center of attention.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

I say this as an autist who used to fucking loathe talking on the phone: Its that the phone takes up too much mental energy and time, yet has a time limit on your own responses. Its hellishly stressful when you are socially incompetent, and now a lot of even non-autistic people are becoming socially incompetent.

Now its funny, I hated phone calls back when everyone liked them. Now I'm pretty OK at them because I worked at a call center for a year and now it seems like everyone now hates phone calls. I kinda recognize that the one nice thing about phone calls is there is no "set up your account before ordering your food" type bullshit. There is a consistency to phone calls.

[–] pyre 1 points 1 hour ago

I think I'm fairly neurotypical but I don't like calls either (though I recognize some things are better on a call). for me it's just that it's feels unnatural that you're supposed to be talking to someone just as you would normally but there's no visual component. it's awkward. imagine two people in the same room having a conversation but they're looking at the wall instead of each other.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There’s also a faster sense of done-ness with a phone call: the conversation is almost always over at the end of the call, whereas with something like text it can take ages because it’s so spread out.

[–] monolalia 2 points 3 hours ago

That… and my insecurity as to what a sane-and-polite-but-not-overdone phrasing would be fades quicker than when that phrasing has been immortalised through writing. It’s just over sooner (provided you actually manage to get through to someone)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

In a world where async communication is effortless, demanding immediate attention is antisocial.

You're saying that you don't care what I'm doing at the moment. You want my full attention immediately. Even leaving a message is more of a time waste than a simple text message

  1. don't call unless it's urgent
  2. if you're calling me it's not urgent

This doesn't apply to landlines, ofc

[–] nyamlae 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Strong disagree. A phone call isn't a demand, and doesn't mean that you don't care what the other person is doing. It's a request to talk to them, and can always be declined. Some things are more quickly and easily sorted out by phone call than text.

[–] IzzyJ 1 points 1 hour ago

Add, some things are time sensitive; which means yes, I do need your attention immediately

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I guess that can be true because my phone is usually on silent, but a message would still be preferable because a missed call in my notifications doesn't tell me much of anything.

I would also put forward that a request to talk could also take the form of a request to talk, like hey are you free to talk about my part in the xyz project?

PS. I would ask the people who you call if they would prefer a text first. It could be you're calling people who are like you, but it's also possible that you're calling people like me, and they're too polite to tell you.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Its my right to be not reachable, outside of work i will take time for your matter when its fitting for me.

And im forgetful and prefer to be able read important information again.

Thats why my phone is always on mute and my voice recorder tells people my email address.

[–] cley_faye 7 points 4 hours ago

Not having to be available at the ready for people is great.

If you arrange for a call, through another asynchronous mechanism, then it's fine. If you cold-call me to ask about the weather (or, more seriously, anything that could have been a text message), I'll leave decapitated horse head in your fridge.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Easy:

Between ages 13 and 18 if I received a phone call it was because I was in trouble, so now when I get one there is a pang of guilt and panic over whatever it is I could have possibly done

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The idea of having a phone at 13 seems foreign to me. I wouldn't have known what to use it felt r, the again smartphones weren't around yet when I was 13.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I had a flip phone because I was a latchkey kid who walked to school. My parents wanted to be able to contact me and vice versa.

[–] dejected_warp_core 43 points 8 hours ago (11 children)

How? Asynchronous communication is better for a lot of people. And now that we have really good choices for that, it's hard to ignore.

A phone call demands that you drop everything in that moment and pay close attention to the person on the other end. If they ramble, deviate, breathe heavily, have a lot of background noise, etc, you're stuck with that experience for the duration. Also, recording without consent is illegal in a lot of places, so you have to be able to write things down in order to refer back to the conversation if it contains any important information.

In contrast, everything else is self-documenting, can be read through multiple times, and can be handled when there is time to focus on that task. As a bonus: most people can read and understand text faster than they can listen. So it's just more efficient.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Which is why I'll never understand people who send recordings. It's the worst of both worlds.

[–] LotrOrc 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

People who send voice notes piss me off so much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Oh god, a 5 minute voice note with no accompanying text, just shoot me. Like you're really going to make me listen to you ramble on a 1x speed while you get to some point that I guarantee could fit in one or two sentences, if you took the modicum of brain power required to compose your thoughts into coherent words.

PS. I understand a lot of people love sending voice notes back and forth, and that's totally fine if it's the thing.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

My biggest reason for not liking calls is that I often very much struggle to actually hear what's being said. I'll take talking in person over a call. Text mediums also have the benefit of being able to be referred back to. Great to double check something, or to cover your ass. I'll take a paper trail any day of the week.

That said though, in my professional life I have encountered a surprisingly huge number of people who just cannot write clearly. It baffles me. Ultimately, to each their own, and I'll try to meet people where they're at. But I much prefer written formats.

[–] Sea_pop 4 points 5 hours ago

Two words for me. Read. Receipts. I have found that someone will inevitably text me and say, "why didn't you respond?" Fucker. You texted me. Want me to actually engage with you? Call me. Otherwise you're now at my mercy.

I prefer calling because it's easy to silence and just let it go to VM if I am busy. Call back immediately and that's usually a sign of being needed.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

In addition to everything else, there's also a feedback loop of spam calls predominating. The more legit conversation moves to other methods, the more spam calls stick out. That, in turn, means even more people prefer something other than phone calls. It eventually gets to the point where 99% of calls are spam, and that whole method of communication becomes useless.

[–] MutilationWave 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

There are people like me who use voice calls about half the time for work. My number is on my email signature and my emails may get passed around, which I don't mind. When I arrive to a new work site I give my number to at least one person, more commonly three or four. So if I practice what seems to be common today of not answering numbers I don't have saved, I could miss critical communication, and waste time hearing a voicemail and calling back.

I'm not saying one or the other is more correct, just that there are different situations to consider.

[–] jj4211 31 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Easy, back in the day all we had was phone call for instant communication, so not much to compare to.

Also, you didn't call a person, you called a house or place of work. This meant it was used more sparingly (need to keep the line open/share with the rest of the house) and if you were away, then that phone call couldn't bother you. This also meant people were used to not being able to reach who they wanted to talk to, so if you felt like letting the answering machine get it, no one would think anything of it. You were either on the phone or present in the moment, not trying to talk with a number of people who don't know each other.

Now everyone has a phone at their hip. You can call someone and if that someone sends it to voicemail, you know they did and it can become a point of drama depending on the circumstance. Now I can be in the middle of text conversations with a half dozen people across half the world and so when my phone unexpectedly rings then I wonder who is this asshole who thinks they deserve my full attention over these other folks, even though the other person has no way of knowing about those conversations. We are expected to juggle concurrent conversations and a phone call derails that.

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