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[–] raspberriesareyummy 209 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

honestly - while a Mac is certainly less painful to use than winshit, putting rubbish files recursively into each(!!) accessed folder, on all thumbdrives ever inserted, that's something Jobs deserves to burn in hell for.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

You'd want that, but a lot of programs do that, both in Windows and Linux.

e.g. The .directory files with the [Desktop Entry] spec by freedesktop.org
Dolphin has the option to enable/disable the feature

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

FWIW Dolphin only does it if the filesystem doesn't provide a way to add that metadata directly to the directory and you change the view configuration for that directory away from your standard configuration. Which is how the standard describes to do it. (Some file managers incorrectly add those .directory files to every directory you visit.)

A mac will add a .DS_Store file to any directory just by breathing on it.

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[–] raspberriesareyummy 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

today I learned - using Linux at home since 2005ish and I have never had an auto-file generated on any USB attached drives of mine...

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I am not familiar with MacOS, but that seems like a nightmare. What is the purpose of these files?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

the macos file browser, Finder, lets you set a background for a folder, move file icons around to arbitrary positions, other shenanigans. in order for this to work across systems on removable storage media and network mounts, they have this.

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[–] dwemthy 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Iirc they're indexes for the system wide search feature, Spotlight

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Nope, that's the .Spotlight-{INDEX} folder which is also often created 😁

[–] meliaesc 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Is there a valid reason not to store that [[anywhere else]], ideally in Spotlight's data?

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[–] cm0002 135 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

See also: Let's roll our own .zip implementation that only Mac can reliably read for....reasons

[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

every time i get a zip file from a mac user it has a folder with random junk in it. what's up with that? i can open the files without it so clearly those files are unnecessary

[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Metadata that's a holdover from the 1980s MacOS behavior. Hilariously, today, NTFS supports that metadata better than Apple's own filesystems of today. They can hide it in Alternate Data Streams.

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Hmm.. Smells like a windows user aswell.. Look at that:

~~.desktop~~ desktop.ini

Edit: fixed the filename

[–] [email protected] 132 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

ehthumbs_vista.db

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 weeks ago

System Volume Information

[–] breakingcups 53 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

Ah shit I've forgotten the ancient tablets, ill fix that thank you!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I've caught the whiff of some Linux too...

lost+found

[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

you should do this with every one of these cases. btw, where does .Trash-1000 actually come from?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 87 points 2 weeks ago

Freedesktop.org’s trash specification. It’s where files moved to trash go before being deleted when it’s emptied. The 1000 is the user id.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago

.Trash-999 was already taken by a metal band.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I had a long and frustrating conflict with this, on this post.

As @d_[email protected] (An dem Punkt könnten wir auch einfach Deutsch labern) noted, it's a freedesktop.org specification.

I still stand the point that it's not very thought through (a hidden dir? Why?), and that blindly implementing it is annoying. It shouldn't be a universal standard for all systems, as it's only relevant if you use a file manager which can then use that dir as Trash dir - which I don't. That could be tested by only allowing filemanagers to create the dir, and if it doesn't exist, discard the data. That's probably how some programs work, as only Prismlauncher has created the dir.

Workaround: ln -s .Trash-1000 /dev/null

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[–] moseschrute 75 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

…and whoever decided a file system should be case insensitive by default, I hate you.

[–] Reddfugee42 25 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

What's the use case for case sensitive file names

[–] Takumidesh 65 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (26 children)

Well an uppercase ASCII char is a different char than its lowercase counterpart. I would argue that not differentiating between them is an arbitrary rule that doesn't make any sense, and in many cases, is more computationally difficult as it involves more comparisons and string manipulations (converting everything to lower case).

And the result is that you ultimately get files with visually distinct names, that aren't actually treated as distinct, and so there is a disconnect from how we process information and how the computer is doing it.

'A' != 'a', they are just as unequal as 'a' and 'b'

Edit: I would say the use case is exactly the same as programming case sensitivity, characters have meaning and capitalizing them has intent. Casing strategies are immensely prevalent in programming and carry a lot of weight for identifying programmers' intent (properties vs backing fields as an example) similar intent can be shown with file names.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Think the other way around: What's the use case for case insensitive file names? Does it justify the effort and complexity for the filesystem and the programs to know the difference between lower and upper space chars?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The moment when you try to rename a folder in windows from Hello to hello and it doesn't work.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

I would also like a word with “bonjour” process while we’re at it.

Thought it was a virus when I first discovered it.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

"Bonjour, i'm here to fuck shit up"

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[–] paraphrand 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Would you have felt differently if it was called Rendezvous?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Probably not. I know better then to trust the french /s

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 weeks ago

Every fucking folder in the file share has one of these

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I saw somebody with Nintendo .DS_store as a username

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 weeks ago

Found one of these in the firmware zip file of my soundbar today.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteNetworkStores -bool TRUE

Helps a bit.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)

Just gitignore that. Same for dot idea and whatever vscode adds, if anything

[–] Valmond 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ya, but that .idea is not inserted in eleven thousand sub folders.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I am not exactly a programmer. What is the .DS_Store file for?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago

Kind of a mac's version of desktop.ini. Remembers layouts and other metadata about a folder.

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[–] Psythik 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

As much as they love to sue people, I don't understand why Nintendo doesn't go after Apple for trademark infringement, so that they're forced to finally come up with a better method of storing folder attributes.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Linux user has been here.

How can you tell?

*sniff* Still smells like smug.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

*sniff* Still smells like smug.

.Trash-1000

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)
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