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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh, and rape was funny. We were supposed to laugh at victims of rape, especially men being eaped in prisons, but occasionally women being raped as well.

[–] LookBehindYouNowAndThen 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You still hear a prison rape joke every now and then.

Like it's hilarious that we let wards of the State get tortured by other inmates, presumably because they "deserve" it.

Not a thought to "hmm, maybe if we're essentially sentencing someone to be raped then there's a systemic problem to be addressed," and often times "why do you love criminals so much" if you voice an opinion contrary to the accepted wisdom that they had it coming.

[–] DillyDaily 2 points 1 day ago

The only prison rape jokes I've heard in the last 10 years are about paedophiles "getting what they deserve in prison"

Which I didn't really think was a funny haha joke, just a "I don't know how to respond or fathom paedophilia, it's deeply uncomfortable and unsettling...haha"

I also personally don't know how I feel about those kinds of jokes.

The rule in comedy is never punch down, but hopefully that's where you've got to aim if you're targeting a convicted child molester, I don't think I'm better than anyone, I believe all human life has equal inherent value....but I also think I'm better than a child molester and that given control of a runaway trolley, their life has less value.

That sure is some cognitive dissonance, so cracking a joke at the expense of a paedophile in prison is easier than confronting my own opinions towards the value of human life.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (6 children)

y'all remember what they called white people who enjoyed hiphop

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Soleos 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We had one for Asians who liked hipho too... Kids come up with the craziest shit 😬

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh, right... I forgot about that one because it's also the word for a pest in my area, double whammy slur

Apparently it's also now a slur for fake rednecks? So that's nice.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

That was especially hilarious when I learned about the "whig" party in early US history.

"Holy shit! They were saying that back then??"

[–] teslasaur 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not sure which one you mean. Wiggas? That's the one they used in Sweden.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

huh. I always just figured metrosexual just meant someone who really loved public transit.

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[–] teslasaur 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's like you forgot that "queer eye for a straight guy" was one of the most popular shows at the time. Would have been completely unheard of just a decade earlier.

Much of the 2000's was bridge building, many people who had never even seen or met a homosexual was first introduced to the culture by shows in the 2000's. I know I was.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That take seems a bit inaccurate.

Metrosexual meant going above & beyond in male beauty care (a pretty low bar): going to a salon to get manicures & pedicures, maybe apply foundation & eyeliner, manscaping. Possibly wearing those low-heel shoes that show the ankles without socks.

I also remember the words fag and like being ambiguous such that in written contexts I'd sometimes see the clarification good kind of fag to mean homosexual in contrast to an insult directed at someone the insulter dislikes (for being pretentious, aggravating, annoying or whatever). In speech, the distinction was often understood from tone & context, so someone could be a fag (homosexual) yet not an effing fag (detestable), and their company might be absolutely welcome for that reason. An insulter would usually pile on imagery of the subject performing homosexual acts as the recipient of such insults typically disapproves portrayals of themselves that way. The insult was a way to puncture egos & authorities claiming a traditionally masculine image. It wasn't particularly effective against out & proud homosexuals or people who weren't homophobic. While fag wasn't always an insult, however, bigots & religious zealots often drew no distinction, either.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's my recollection too.

Men in the 2000's new about grooming. That was nothing new. "Metrosexual" referred to men who took it to extremes. The opening scene of "American Psycho" was held up as perfect example of metrosexual behaviour. It left open the possibility that of homosexuality but could absolutely apply to people who were seen as 100% straight. It was more synonymous with "dandy", "fop" or "narcissist".

In my mind, gay or straight is secondary for a metrosexual. Their first love will always their own image.

That said, there was crazy homophobia back then. Ya'll don't even want to hear about what kind of shit was going on before people had cell phones that recorded everything.

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[–] GlendatheGayWitch 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That came about partly because homosexuality in the US was legalized on June 26, 2003. Without the fear of raids, people started talking more openly about sexuality and the tide was turning slowly more positive that movies and TV shows that joined the conversation weren't immediately shut down.

[–] DillyDaily 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow, I'm not American so I didn't realise Texas was holding out that long, wasn't Massachusetts offering state sanctioned marriages in like 04/05? That timeline is mind blowing! To have one state doing so much for equal rights while the other fights in court to actively do less.

I thought here in Australia, Tasmania was bad waiting until 1997 when their overseas neighbour to the north (Vic) was 1980... Then we didn't get any form of same sex marriage until 2017.

But 2003!

You have actually broken my brain with this fact...

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Every time I come across forum posts from the 2000s I lose a little bit of nostalgia for that period of time. The casual bigotry was fucking everywhere.

[–] PieMePlenty 4 points 1 day ago

Theres a southpark episode about this.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fun fact: the term was literally invented by the British tabloid press to explain how (football superstar and husband of Victoria "Posh Spice" Beckham) David Beckham could wear a sarong without being secretly gay.

I wish I was making it up but that's genuinely the origin of the term 🤦

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I watched the Beckham documentary recently and although I’m not really into football it was deplorable how the media treated DB back then and really does show how sick the media are/were.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

This is an episode from my favorite podcast to listen to on road trips, Decoder Ring. https://open.spotify.com/episode/73XOUMOeqkFWYrCcaRMJqd This episode is about the term metrosexual.

I love this podcast. They also did an episode on truck nutz! It's just very very deep dives on random pop culture topics. And it's good journalism too, not just the C-list YouTube Video Essayist summarize-the-wikipedia-article type of stuff.

[–] GoofSchmoofer 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hell the 2000's were bad - but it was just an extension to decades, if not centuries of homophobia. Watch the first 5 minutes of Eddie Murphy's RAW to see what was socially acceptable to say in the late 70's, early 80's.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

In an effort to show my wife the things I loved as a kid, I put on Eddie Murphy's stand up. The intro was brutal.

After about 15 minutes, she asked me if we can stop watching.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I been watching some movies and TV shows from the early 2000s as a nostalgia trip with my wife and man there were some terrible lessons. We talked about the homophobia and transphobia but the misogyny, body image and sexualization of teens. The skin women being called fat with the fashion that only looked good on thin thin thin women. The insistence that there was nothing worse than being a virgin. (While the schools were doing an abstinence only education BTW). The countdown clocks to when every female celebrity turned 18 everywhere. It's surreal to think that message was everywhere.

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[–] LovableSidekick 14 points 2 days ago

The 2000s were about as homophobic as the 90s, 80s, 70s, etc. Everything was just more out of the closet then.

[–] [email protected] 107 points 2 days ago (12 children)

The culture shift is stark sometimes when you watch old stuff.

On the other hand, don't let them turn that into an excuse. You know what dealt with trans rights in a pretty honest, raw, and understanding way, in the mid 1980s? Fucking Hill Street Blues. One of the cops gets together with a woman, he's happy to be with her, and then the other cops start giving him hell for it because she used to be a man. He gets disgusted and angry, goes over to her place, and she lectures him about it and sets him straight, tells him to figure out if he wants to be with her, but don't try to turn who I am into some kind of thing I did to you, or make me feel bad about it. He sort of accepts it, because she clearly has a point, and that's the end of the episode.

Hill Street Blues, man.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Watched Ace Ventura a few years ago for the first time since I was a kid. I remembered the whole trans reveal thing. Never put together as a kid they were implying that it was part of that character being mentally ill and completely forgot about Ace and the cops freaking out after finding out.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah. It's absolutely nuts.

In the 60s, if you were a man in a movie, you could hit women if they were getting crazy, to set them straight.

In the 80s, the heroes of movies could commit rape (Revenge of the Nerds) or child molestation (Indiana Jones) and still be the heroes of the movies.

In the 90s, the simple fact of a character being gay, or God forbid trans, was its own comedic element, without anything additional needing to be added.

Things have changed. Like changed a lot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

I like retrospective threads like this. Puts things in perspective. Growing up under conditions like that, it would have been weird if I hadn't repressed my gender identity. Pity things couldn't have changed earlier, and let me realize sooner.

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[–] Duamerthrax 6 points 1 day ago

There's still weird shit on tv. For obvious reasons, I haven't seen much Big Bang Theory, but that show has some weird, casual sexism.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago

I used to get called gay because I rolled the sleeves up on my shirt. Also because I worked with a gay guy and occasionally had lunch with him, maybe half a dozen times a year. The odd thing is that I had a girlfriend (same one 22 years later) who these idiots knew about.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Metrosexual 2033, Metrosexual Last Light, and Metrosexual Exodus

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[–] edgemaster72 48 points 2 days ago (22 children)

Wait, shorts were gay? Does that include cargo shorts? Cuz there were a lot of cargo shorts at the time.

Source: used to wear cargo shorts back then. I still do, but I used to too.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Can't even wear my chartreuse short-shorts with JUICY printed on the butt without people thinking I'm gay

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

When I was growing up “f!!!ot” wasn’t even seen as a cuss word, it was just a burn you called your friends all the time. We didn’t really think about it until I was 16 and one of our friends came out as gay. My whole friend group kind of had it click at the same time that 1. We didn’t care that he was gay and 2. It was probably pretty fucking rude to call everything we didn’t like “g!y” and call eachother “f!g” as an insult. I think that realization happened for a lot of people who had gay friends in my generation, and it’s part of what helped lead to the level of acceptance and support the LGBT community has now.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago

Asian dude who went to high school in the 90s.

We were constantly called metro or straight up gay because we dressed like BTS before BTS was born.

But they called us that in a hateful way.

Ya 90s high school sucked for minorities.

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