PhilipTheBucket

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

It costs money to put these articles together.

If you don’t want to pay for them, that’s fine. Block the bot.

If you want to see them when they come out, and you’re okay with navigating the paywall to evaluate whether you want to subscribe to the service, the name of the bot serves as a warning so you know what you’re getting into.

If you want to subscribe to one of the paywalled sources, and then subscribe to the community so you can see all its content and talk to people about it, you know what to do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

It is and I could. I'd be fine doing it, but why not just read them when they come up in [email protected]? I've been trying not to create communities that are going to be duplicates or spam, or split the user base between one way of reading articles and another way of reading articles. Do you want it as a DM, maybe?

I think an even better way would be software that can follow the original Wordpress feed, if they have one, but Lemmy can't do that right now.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago

Read the sidebar. Block the paywall bot if you don't want paywalled content.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not a problem at all. I think a better way to do that will be to let moderators of existing communities add the bot to their existing communities. Someone asked about doing that, and it's easy to set up the bot to make it possible, so I think I'll just do that instead. I don't need to create a duplicate community for anything that's already got one.

I'm fine with the existing structure, with one community per periodical. I tried [email protected] and [email protected] and it looks like some people are into that type of structure, but I'm thinking mostly in terms of one-periodical communities or moderators from off-instance communities being able to add things.

Are there any that you would cherry-pick that you think you would personally use? I'd be perfectly willing to add them, if so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't think that the Austin or Texas communities are useful as communities. Do you mind if I delete them?

Are there other feeds from your OPML that you would really like to have in Lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it's a good idea. I want to make it possible for people to administer their own feeds, without creating spam, and I think having moderators able to add feeds to communities they moderate would be a good stepping stone.

How about adding a feature to let people write:

@[email protected] add https://some/feed !some_community@instance
@bot.rss.ponder.cat remove https://some/feed !some_community@instance

in DMs or comments, and control their subscriptions directly? I'm still not sure about letting them do that to create communities on rss.ponder.cat, but for communities they already moderate, it sounds like a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He's a strong advocate of abortion rights for his mistresses, his associates' mistresses, anyone in his family, and wealthy white people.

Everyone else, he couldn't care less about. They're a bunch of spilled rice in someone else's kitchen. Unimportant, and out of mind.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Removed along with a short ban. Don't post article text. You can block the [email protected] bot if you don't want to see paywalled articles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I've banned you now, so you don't need to worry about it.

 

!coding_[email protected]

A selection of coding and tech related blogs. If you'd like me to add any, let me know.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for your calm and constructive criticism. I've split the bot into [email protected] and [email protected], and I recommend that you block one or both of them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Than there is problem with I don’t trust media will write the truth anyway, so giving them few bucks will probably not change that. But it is important for us to know what other people know.

Are there any media sources that I'm hosting feeds for which you feel that way about? I think the problem is much worse in a lot of free content, and I've been trying to bring in honest and high-quality sources when I'm adding news sources.

While this is outside of our current discussion, they need to find better model.

If it is a daily newspaper, maybe paywal new articles and release after sone reasonable time (like a week, or month… or a year).

I don't understand, can you explain more?

Edit: I understand now. That's outside the scope of my abilities... I would like to be able to offer a paid subscription with a deal that provides access to a wide variety of paywalled content, like a site license at a university, but I think that's also outside the scope of my abilities. You're right that they need a better model.

I like your idea of separating feeds, to keep paywalled content out of my feed.

It seems like a good compromise. I certainly understand that if someone's decided not to read paywalled content, putting a lot of it into their Lemmy feed in a way that's difficult to disable isn't a good thing to do. I think separating the paywalled content into a separate user so it's easy to block is probably a good pragmatic solution.

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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/fediverse
 

I've been seeing some complaints about paywalled content being posted in the rss.ponder.cat communities.

Here's my proposal:

  • Split the bot into two users: [email protected] and [email protected].
  • Make a rule similar to some other communities, forbidding people from posting full text or links to archive.is on the paywalled communities.
  • If you like some of the paywalled content, subscribe to it. You can afford $5-10/month for one or two sources, and it'll help them a lot. Creating good content on the internet isn't free.
  • If you don't want the paywalled content, block the paywall bot and you won't have to see it in your feed.
  • If you don't want any of it, block both bots or the whole instance.

It's a real problem that Lemmy communities sometimes have paywalled content from 50 different sources, which makes it annoying to use and unreasonable to tell people to subscribe to content they want to read, because they would need 50 different subscriptions.

I think the RSS bot is a better solution than just ripping off content from all the high-quality online news sources and shrugging your shoulders if they go out of business and can't do it anymore a year from now. Everybody wins. High quality online news can still pay their bills, and you get a good way to stay up to date on it within Lemmy.

I'm posting this here instead of in the meta community because I have a feeling that most of the people who are saying they don't like the paywalled content are not subscribed, and I'd like to get feedback from the community as a whole.

What do people think?

Edit: I've implemented the proposal. There are now separate bots @[email protected] and @[email protected].

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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I added feeds for some other good organizations. Give them a follow. Subscribe to them. Give them money so they can survive.

Grist

Grist is a nonprofit, independent media organization dedicated to highlighting climate solutions and uncovering environmental injustices. Since 1999, we have used the power of journalism to engage the public about the perils of the most existential threat we face. Now that three-quarters of Americans recognize that climate change is happening, we’ve shifted our focus to show that a just and sustainable future is within reach.

[email protected]

Mother Jones

Mother Jones is a nonprofit, reader-supported newsroom founded in 1976 that reaches millions of people each month across our website, social media, videos, newsletter, and print magazine. Mother Jones is produced by the Center for Investigative Reporting, which also produces Reveal, the weekly investigative radio show and podcast.

Our newsroom investigates the big stories that may be ignored or overlooked by other news outlets, including about democracy and voting rights, racial justice, reproductive rights, and food and agriculture.

[email protected]

The Marshall Project

The Marshall Project is a nonpartisan, nonprofit news organization that seeks to create and sustain a sense of national urgency about the U.S. criminal justice system. We have an impact on the system through journalism, rendering it more fair, effective, transparent and humane.

[email protected]

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