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AI just screams "lazy" and "lack of care". If they don't care that every article they put out has a completely unnecessary AI image in it, what guarantee do I have they care about any of the content on their website?
If they can't afford an image then it's better to have none than to give money to a company that will DDOS their servers with web-scrappers.
In my eyes, AI = Complete disregard for quality control.
Agreed. It shows a lack of standards which you want from people informing you about reality in a trustworthy and accurate way.
i totally agree with you: ai pic = lazy, and makes me instantly think that the text attached to it was regurgitated by ShitGPT.
I think the chances that Greg Palast is using generative AI to write his articles for him are extremely low.
Might be, but any use of generative "AI" shows such poor judgement that the image alone makes his text look dubious by association.
That was my entire point in response to the comment I got in response. Though, you expressed it much gooder than me did.
Didn't mean to upstage you 🙂
nevertheless, i'm against generative AI, i don't want any of this slop to be served to me. if you can't afford paying an artist or license something valuable to illustrate your article, leave it.
If I see evidence of AI in any space on a page (aside, obviously, from one that is analyzing AI) I assume that the page has nothing worth reading.
I doubt I will miss anything of value by this assumption.
So I'm with you. Putting AI "art" on an article is just a sign of dishonesty and taints the writing as well.
I agree with you and your immediate loss of trust when seeing ai-generated images, especially in news articles. My view is that if you are an established media company, then it’s your responsibility to pay for legal illustrations/images. Whether that be hiring an illustrator to make something from scratch or buying the rights to an existing image, participating in that market keeps creatives employed and keeps the quality of the art high, or a least not filled with seven-fingered people. Once we give up on artists creating new works and rely only on remixing drivel without permission, we’ll lose quite a lot of creativity, and people can obviously tell the difference.
I’m a little more ambivalent about independent journalists or newly spun-up media companies that are still getting their bearings using image generators, but frankly my impression whenever I see one even on a small independent site is still “yuck, no image would be better than this crap.”
So yeah, there are definitely more important things to be upset about when it comes to AI being shoved down our throats, but this also bothers me a lot.
AI images just remind me of bad YouTube video thumbnails or Taboola ads. 99% of the time it’s a sign of something low quality and not worth my time.
What does that illustration add to the article? Even if it was human-drawn, that illustration would tell me that it's just an "outrage" style article and that any information I read there is suspect.
Eventually we might not be able to discern between "natural" and "generated" images. Also there are plenty of instances where it's probably ok to use generated images (eg. wikihow). Etc.
So I think it depends entirely on context and honesty. If someone is using a generated image in a dishonest way for some political purpose, then that's probably bad. If someone uses a generated image to make a cartoon about cooking pancakes, then that seems ok.
(Routine disclaimer: Image generation is not "AI" but just statistics applied to big data.)
Of all the possible uses of AI, this seems like the least offensive to me.
Sure, I would somewhat agree to "among the least offensive" but it's not entirely free of it. Particularly if you are an established writer/researcher, why would you stoop to that level and associate yourself with the use of AI in your work at all? You should easily have the means to pay for an illustration either from stock or an artist, so you're willing to add slop in your work? For what? Convenience?
I don't disagree, I just think of everything regarding AI out there, there are better uses of time in terms of complaints/criticism.
I understand your big picture perspective, but I'm going to guess you never tried to make a living as an illustrator?
You do understand that "the least offensive" thing is still offensive, right?
Dude, condescend much?
Don't automatically assume whataboutism on my part when
I'm sharing my personal perspective as a former creative freelancer, and
the literally first two words of my reply was "I understand".
Don't complain about other people being condescending when you say shit like, "but I’m going to guess you never tried to make a living as an illustrator" as if you have to have actually done that to see that this is still a problem.
Yes, you said you understand my big picture perspective. You did not say you understood that I was still saying it was a bad thing and I have no idea why you're trying to gaslight me.
What I do see is you're beating a dead horse to get one over here or get the final word. I'm not trying to "gaslight" you?
Let it go, pal. This "seeing other people's perspectives" thing clearly isn't for you.
Yes, but agreeing with your perspective, I can't see your perspective. Logic.
(Your perspective wasn't the problem, you doing it by being condescending was the problem.)
Welp, I still don't see what's condescending about my comment — I guess I should have put a big ol' winky emoji at the end to signal my intended tone. As should be clear I was triggered by your escalating response to that 🤷
TBH, I'm still fairly sure you're just playing an idiot game of oneupmanship here, but for what it's worth I didn't mean to talk down to you.
No, I'm just an idiot. And I wish people would realize that.
Also, again, I am agreeing with you, so how is it one-upsmanship?
(So often on Lemmy I find people who just won't accept that I agree with them when I say I do and I just don't get it.)