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Summary

Trump has announced the U.S. withdrawal from the Paris climate accords, citing a focus on domestic energy production and rolling back Biden-era climate policies.

This move, which can be completed in one year, will align the U.S. with nations such as Iran, Libya, and Yemen as the only UN-recognized countries outside the global pact.

Critics warn it undermines global climate efforts, ceding leadership to China, which has aggressively expanded green technologies.

Trump pledged to boost fossil fuels while continuing nuclear power investment.

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[–] Sanctus 84 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All of this effort to stay in the past will only ensure America is not a world power in the coming years. If you aren't at the forefront of green energy you are at risk of becoming the very fuel you drill.

[–] AA5B 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We’ve already let China own the market for renewable energy, EVs, high speed rail, etc this gives them four more years to consolidate their gains without competition.

[–] Sanctus 5 points 1 week ago

I really think the point is to weaken us to irrelevance against Russia. Thing is, this military just dont disappear.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In 3 years, some green-energy country is going to invade the sandy dust-bowl North American continent to use our land for wind, solar, and algae-based bio-fuels. We might fight at first, but we'll be too fat or sick or both to actually do anything about it.

When we finally emerge from our state of extreme foot-shootery, we'll look around and realize what's happened: American exceptionalism has won the day again! And then we'll invade some country with oil and talk about how smart and rich we are.

[–] militaryintelligence 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

extreme foot-shootery

Leoparded face

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The funny thing is the first time around he could have made a difference to the world by withdrawing from those accords and setting even more strict goals for the US to lead the world. But there's no profit in that.

As we rocket past the Accords' 1.5C limit, doubling down on more fossil fuel use and removing what environmental policies we had will counter anything positive the rest of the world does.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 3 points 1 week ago

Could have been a ton of profit in it. Instead we want it to be like our healthcare system. A complete, overly expensive, behind the times sack of garbage.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A purely symbolic gesture. The USA didn't actually have to withdraw from the accords before it could ignore the accords, in which case it would have plenty of company.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's insane to me how the rest of the world has to put up with our elections system. Every 4 years we have a dude with a whole new world of different views, and those poor countries have to keep changing their lives every 4 years. lol

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Please understand that this is not directed at you personally, but fuck you. Sincerely, the rest of the world.

Edit because I can't just leave it at that: I'm furious at the US but I also despair for all of the innocent people (Americans and others) who are going to suffer as a result.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

100% understand how you feel.

[–] cabron_offsets 4 points 1 week ago

Yep. Fuck us.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Oh don't you worry, we're well and truly fucked

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From outside the US, the politics of democrats and Republicans aren't that different.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

We know that from the inside. At least I know that. It's all a theater.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/donald-trump-olaf-scholz-aussenpolitik-us-beziehungen-li.3186099

Basically, outwardly hey there new president, we'll play it cool right? Pretty pls? Meanwhile, the German ambassador to the US: I do not have any fucking clue how far they will destroy the constitution, but it will be horrible. Meanwhile the German economy: 5 percent chance of all going well, 95 percent it will hurt or the worlds economy is going to be in shambles.

So yeah, not much actual enthusiasm here

[–] TheDemonBuer 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In doing so, the United States will join a tiny club of countries outside of the global consensus

The US is proudly outside of the global consensus on many issues and standards. Many, if not most Americans, believe that we are different, special, exceptional. We don't join the rest of the world, the rest of the world joins us, whether they want to or not.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not most, just the vocal few. At least where I am, Colorado, there is massive support for being a member of a global world. Things like clean energy are very important to us!

[–] TheDemonBuer 2 points 1 week ago

I think most Americans, Colorado notwithstanding, believe that the US is exceptional. Most Americans still believe the US is the "shining city upon a hill," as Reagan put it. Maybe it's not as many as it used to be, but I think it's still most.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And for some reason the rest of the world tends to think Americans are arrogant assholes. I know lots of nice Americans but they're just not as loud as the not-nice ones.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I skimmed through the inauguration VoD. The amount of cheering from the audience for signing that executive order was heartbreaking.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Related, I just went to the comment section of a french-translated video of Trump's inauguration (admittedly uploaded by a conservative french journal, Le Figaro), and all of the comments were dithyrambic. It's extremely depressing. Makes you wonder, how can we work against ourselves like that? where are we even going?