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[–] [email protected] 119 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Didn't they shut down their own Wii U servers?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] MagnyusG 99 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago
[–] Chainweasel 16 points 2 days ago

That's the point, planned obsolescence.
Shut down the Wii U online services to force people to buy newer hardware. If people create their own "unauthorized" services then, in their eyes, they're losing sales.
I imagine it's not too long before the software starts including an end of life date that bricks devices after a certain date.

[–] RedIce25 87 points 2 days ago

My brother in Christ, you shut down the online service!

[–] PastaRhythm 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't know if this actually indicates that Nintendo cares. I think this statement only exists so that if someone manages to break their Wii U using Pretendo, Nintendo can't be held liable because they did tell people not to use it. Not that Pretendo is gonna break anybody's system (or that I give a hoot if Nintendo doesn't like it), but companies like to cover their bases.

[–] Tattorack 27 points 2 days ago

So... Nintendo wants to dictate what owners of systems they have abandoned are allowed to do?

Can somebody please humble these guys already?

[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Nintendo: Remember kids, you bought the console, but we decide how you use it.

[–] TAG 33 points 2 days ago

This is just them covering their butts from bad publicity or a law suit. They are telling you that their tech support will not help you use an unauthorized online server and if you get hacked, it is your own fault. Nothing particularly weird about it. No more than just about every piece of free software includes a document explaining that the software does not include a warranty.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Pretty sure this guy's not actually a velociraptor. He probably watched Jurassic Park. But the thing is, that movie took some... ahem ...."liberties" with facts about dinosaurs.

Most people hear "velociraptor" and think 6 foot tall lizardy looking dinosaurs that can open doors. But in reality, it's more like 2-3 feet tall, kind of bird like in both appearance and behavior.

That kid who said it's like a 6 foot turkey would have actually been accurate if he had said like a turkey. Just......a regular ol turkey, except with teeth, and carnivorous. Still a terrifying thing to stumble on in the wild, as they were pack hunters. Now imagine a turkey with teeth hunting you. Except it's like 15 of the fuckers.

So yeah. This guy probably ISN'T a velociraptor. He's probably a Utah raptor. Which is what Jurassic Park based almost everything on.

Now, all that being said, fuck you Nintendo! You shut down the servers! I'd LOVE to have MiiVerse and online services through your official services.....BUT THAT'S NOT ON THE TABLE, NOW IS IT YOU NARSASITIC ASSHOLES!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for pointing the Jurassic Park inaccuracy! Indeed we...er the Velociraptors were not as depicted in that film, ~~we~~ they were covered in feathers and much more similar to a modern turkey both in size and aspect than to what you see in the film. By the size of it, the film probably depicted a Deinonychus, which was another dromaeosaurid of a size that went up to 3 mt (roughly 11 ft).

The Utahraptor, another dromaeosaurid, was double that size, making it too big to what the film calls a Velociraptor.

[–] Tarquinn2049 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but think about how cool the word velociraptor sounds.... so really... they were probably right, and science is just gonna have to take the L on this one. Rename all the stuff so that retroactively jurassic park is right. Problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A lot of people seriously misjudge turkeys as well. They picture the little dog-sized white bastards you see on farms. But out here in the forest our turkeys are 4 ft tall and their back legs are covered with murder spikes ending in feet with 3-inch talons.

[–] friend_of_satan 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In Japan they are legally allowed to say that. Even modifying a save game file is illegal in Japan.

https://www.thegamer.com/save-game-editors-modding-illegal-japan/

[–] GreenKnight23 35 points 2 days ago

eat shit Nintendo.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Nintendo only remembers the Wii U to tell us we should have stopped using it for years by now.

Fuck that. The only console that had less official support from them than the Wii U was probably freaking Virtual Boy,

I ripped all of my GC, Wii and Wii U discs and injected them on an external drive as Wii U apps. I'll probably try the third party online thing one day. Thank you for reminding me they exist.

[–] SidewaysHighways 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Does injecting into apps still work? How did you format your drive?

[–] friend_of_satan 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It does work. It's the best way to install older system's games because you can install them on the same drive as Wiiu games.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah here's a Google Doc I made a couple of years ago when I was figuring out Wii U homebrew/hacking should it be of use:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wz5SN5GjunomI7OOkdQgJRZRA9MM4yQUXSP_c0WcxIs/edit?usp=drivesdk

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I haven't needed to update it for a while, so I am probably using a semi-old way to do this. I am still on tiramisu for the hack loader, I am just seeing right now there's a more recent one (Aroma?) with new features. I don't know much about that.

My drive is just an external HDD with Wii U's standard formatting (though I have a Y cable for it, since one Wii u usb port is not enough to power those). It's literally the same HDD I already used before hacking the console.

I have cleanrip on the virtual Wii to dump Wii and GC discs on a SD, then on PC teconmoon injector to make a virtual console channel from them. Then I install them with Wup Installer GX2 on the Wii U system itself. For GC you need Nintendont on the virtual Wii for controller support etc.

I don't remember the name for the homebrew that dumps Wii U discs right now, but it's even more direct since it creates a Wup to install.

Edit : got my wires a bit crossed in here, I do rip and inject my GC games too, but I can't rip them with the Wii U, that drive can't read them. I still have an actual Wii with cleanrip to do that. Otherwise it's the same process.

[–] cley_faye 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I love Nintendo, but seriously, screw them over their handling of their users.

[–] Lautaro 17 points 2 days ago

Used to love Nintendo, but I had enough of their bullshit a long time ago. Last straw was they closing South America eShop, which rendered my 3DS unusable (game cartridges are expensive here, and you mostly get old games).

Of course, I ended up jailbreaking the thing, but I never again thought about purchasing any of their products anymore.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

I mean, at least someone is providing a service!

I guess more could not be expected from such an indie developer as Nintendo.

[–] Treczoks 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How much would it cost them just to keep their own store running? Could not be much on a virtual machine with no content changes. And they won't need exorbitant capacities. There will be no download waves just because a new game gets on the market, after all.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Based on some similar experience: low millions per year.

Skeleton crew of devs+ITS to keep the lights on, software licensing, hardware costs, customer support, financial oversight, legal oversight and occasional compliance efforts.

Probably a good amount of technical and organizational friction involved, too, for whatever services, knowledge bases, and corporate policies were shared between the Wii U and Switch.

It seems stupid when you compare it to the fact that Pretendo probably pays about 1% as much, but that’s just how businesses work.

[–] Kelly 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Keeping an internet facing service online is unfortunately expensive if you want to keep it patched.

The need to migrate to a new OS every few years to keep the security updates going does force them to weight the pros and cons periodically.

I don't like it happening but I can see how they can decide to pull the plug.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I understand they pulled the plug, what pisses me off is them being assholes and saying that you can't look for an alternative to a service that they decided to kill.

[–] Kelly 2 points 2 days ago

Fair enough.

Its exactly the kind of thing the Stop Killing Games campaign is trying to help with.

[–] Strider 5 points 2 days ago

From experience I can (sadly!) tell you the effort and money goes up the longer it runs, especially if you keep the maintenance low.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who's going to read this and think, "I was totally about to try Pretendo, but now that Nintendo told me not to I guess I won't!"?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

It has a chilling effect on normies and that's all they really expect here.

[–] bblkargonaut 8 points 2 days ago

Also Nintendo, put that Wii U in the trash along with your ds and never mention them again, btw here's a port from those systems for $60+.

[–] Coreidan 6 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Why would anyone give any fucks about what a corpo has to say?

These parasites deserve nothing, they got their fee. Get fucked