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[–] phoneymouse 61 points 6 days ago (1 children)

US should follow Europe’s regulatory model - “prove it’s safe before you sell it.” US model is “sell it until someone proves it’s unsafe.”

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

Remember when they tested on animals? Now it's tested on humans.

They thought there was some third option.

[–] Limonene 54 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The US Food and Drug Administration has said it’s taking the issue seriously

And yet, it keeps happening. The Hux family from this story had to sue the manufacturer to get anything. So many people were harmed and probably never even got informed about the recall. Plenty of other harmful products will injure people and go undetected.

The FDA has no teeth, and it's not getting any better in the next 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

The FDA will be gutted by the DOGE crew anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

What, you mean the brain worm that directs RFK's actions isn't capable of effective regulation?

Certainly it won't be the case that a random doctor from Arkansas who happens to be a Fox News contributor and also happens to shill her own vitamin supplement mix will be executing directives from the brain worm.

[–] ilmagico 3 points 6 days ago

From the article:

It’s unclear whether that will change under Robert F. Kennedy Jr., President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee to run the US Department of Health and Human Services. Kennedy has called for getting rid of dyes and other ingredients linked to cancer that can be found in food and has said the US needs tougher regulators that aren’t as close to the industries they police.

I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day ... hopefully he makes that happens.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But an internal FDA document showed the agency classified the benzene levels in Johnson & Johnson sunscreens as “life threatening.” The agency didn’t share that information with consumers at the time. The document came to light through a public records request.

Federal law doesn’t give the agency power to force a recall. Instead, companies use their own discretion to decide when to pull contaminated products off shelves.

After Valisure discovered benzene in widely used benzoyl peroxide acne products like Proactiv and Clearasil in March, the FDA and consumer-goods makers said the lab didn’t test the products in real-world conditions. Valisure has said its testing meets international standards and it gets its test results checked by another lab.

[–] reddig33 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Where is all the benzene coming from? It’s not an actual ingredient in these products.

  • Is it purposeful adulteration?
  • A byproduct of another ingredient breaking down into benzene?
  • Something used to clean the manufacturing or packaging equipment?
[–] credo 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It seems like a stretch to ask people to try reading the article, but it’s in the second paragraph:

They had no way of knowing the gas, derived from fossil fuel, wasn’t properly purified and contaminated the sunscreen with benzene

[–] reddig33 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Thanks. Last two times I’d read about this the articles didn’t include any info about where the benzene was coming from. I guess they finally figured it out. Neutragena had a recall last time this happened. And know that I’ve read the article I can see that’s mentioned too.

[–] 9tr6gyp3 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What the fuck is this garbage ass website? I have to agree to the terms and conditions in order to READ an article? Fuck off with that bullshit.

[–] Limonene 24 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I bypass this using Firefox's "reader view". The button to toggle it is at the right edge of the address bar. It removes many annoyances from badly designed news sites.

[–] 9tr6gyp3 8 points 6 days ago

Thank you for this tip. Worked great!

[–] Speculater 4 points 6 days ago

I use Firefox nearly exclusively and didn't know about this feature. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm constantly forgetting about reader view.
Please keep posting this advice.

[–] PlantJam 3 points 5 days ago

I especially like the time to read estimate.

[–] masterbaexunn 16 points 6 days ago

Why isn't it at all a surprise that it's j&j again?! How the fuck are they even allowed to operate?

[–] Reality_Suit 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] FireRetardant 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Love how the law lets the private company making the profits decide when a product should be pulled off shelves. Defintely no conflict of interests there.

[–] Reality_Suit 3 points 6 days ago

There's no incentive for them to even self regulate. They just need to not get caught, and if they're the one regulating themselves, all they have to do is not catch themselves doing anything wrong.

[–] GrammarPolice 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

How is this possible? Doesn't the FDA have to approve these products before they're put on shelves?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

The opiod crisis was FDA approved. Regulations in the US are a joke if they target corporations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Generally no, unless it's a pharmaceutical. Drugs require approval, everything else, including all kinds of "dietary supplements", do not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Fuckin, Mary Schmich.