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At the first meeting of the DOGE Caucus, a new congressional group focused on government efficiency, Republican Rep. Greg Lopez stated that cuts to Social Security and Medicare are likely “on the table” as part of debt reduction efforts.

The caucus, led by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, aims to slash government spending, raising concerns among advocacy groups about potential attacks on anti-poverty programs.

Critics, including Social Security Works, warn the caucus may push for privatization and benefit reductions.

This comes despite Trump’s prior commitment to protect these programs.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If DOGE doesn't touch US Military spending (they won't), it's more bullshit than the TSA

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

What's going to happen is DOGE will cut $5 trillion from the programs, and then there will be a $4 trillion in tax cuts that impact only the rich in someway or another, and an additional $1 trilion for the military.

0 money is actually going to be saved from this. Realistically it'll be negative and cost money, not even 0.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

WHUT? I thought Trump was just going to kick out all the illegals and fuck over China! No one told me there would be DOMESTIC consequences!! Why didn't anyone warn me? At all his rallies he said the next 4 years would be awesome. Now I'm starting to think I was misled!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

nooo trump will definitely make the country great again, you see, but just like every great empire, so does this one require slaves/victims. otherwise if you're not winning against someone, what is the point in greatness?

[–] unclejeeves 5 points 1 day ago
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

well i guess it's a good thing nobody really needed that Social Security anyways /s

i'm impressed over and over again what kind of mental flexibility allows people to call themselves "followers of jesus" and then implement such regulations.

[–] dejected_warp_core 5 points 23 hours ago

Not to come off as a raging cynic, but I for one am not.

All one needs to do is work retail or food service on Sundays. Moral licensing is absolutely a thing, and it's awful. Such interactions can leave one with the impression that there's a huge mob of people out there that are more concerned with narrowly avoiding hell than ensuring their place in heaven. Nevermind trying to be good people.

[–] phoneymouse 77 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Remember, we fucking paid for social security. It’s not government pork. It’s ours.

[–] Wogi 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Don't worry, you'll continue to pay for it. You'll probably even pay more.

The cuts are just for the people receiving it. They'll lose money. Which means you'll lose even more in the future.

A majority of young people agree on what the right course of action is here. Remember to leave your phone at home. Don't talk to the police.

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[–] Zoomboingding 9 points 1 day ago

Up, it has a surplus. Government 'borrows' from the pool to pay for stuff. When they say they're making cuts, what they mean is they don't intend to pay the debt.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

No, it's theirs. They're going to take it and we're just going to let them because we are cowards.

You, me, the next guy that posts a meme, complete and total cowards who are going to bend over and let him fuck us.

Y'all let it get this far, are you waiting on something? Bend over, then.

[–] RizzRustbolt 4 points 19 hours ago

This is what happens when you've never ridden on the subway.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure sure. I'm game for moving social security, but now how about you give back all the fucking money I put in it WITH interest since ya know.... Inflation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

This country isn’t for you, homie. It’s for the rich.

The rich will get your money and your interest, and you’ll get nothing. Americans like it that way.

[–] bizzle 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

All you guys who didn't vote for whatever reason... I hope you're happy.

[–] MrPoopbutt 10 points 1 day ago

I think that anyone who didn't vote because they thought the two were equivalent are probably not the type of person to keep up with this type of thing. So, there is probably ignorance, not necessarily stupidity (although there is that too). Ignorance is bliss. They're probably in their own world worrying about other things, and they probably are happier for it.

I am envious. It will be bad enough to suffer resulting from everything president dipshit will do, but suffering from frustration knowing it is coming is awful too.

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[–] GoofSchmoofer 6 points 23 hours ago

Yet if there is any discussion on increasing taxes on these fucks all of a sudden it's government overreach on the "job creators"

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

‘Member when Dark Brandon called republicans out on this in his state of the union address, and they all booed and denied it?

Pepperidge Farm ‘members

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Too bad "dark" Brandon couldn't appoint a competent attorney general. Or stand up to the Israeli genocide. It so any of the important things that could have prevented voters not caring to turn out, having felt abandoned and ignored... But at least he said some things

[–] Skullgrid 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

EDIT:

cuts to Social Security and Medicare are likely “on the table” as part of debt reduction efforts.

Medicare for all? More like Medicare for none.

[–] CitricBase 232 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Friendly reminder that Social Security is a separate government program that funds itself.

What Musk is talking about is stealing from Social Security in order to cut taxes elsewhere (namely cutting taxes for people like Musk).

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's not completely true. Social Security is supposed to fund itself, however it's currently facing a funding shortfall with current estimates that it will be depleted in 2035. There are many suggestions on how make this program solvent, including bolstering it with general funds.

[–] CitricBase 118 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think a good start would be to stop allowing Republicans to raid Social Security for quick cash, like they've been constantly doing since the Reagan administration.

[–] teamevil 55 points 1 day ago

But then how could they argue it's insolvent‽

[–] Dkarma 45 points 1 day ago

That's not completely true. Long ago they put it into the general fund. There is always a shortfall in the general fund. Before they put it in there it was solvent, and if they wouldn't have it would be completely solvent today.

It was already stolen. They want the rest.

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[–] mhague 58 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A huge, mouth watering steak walks up to you and says, "There's no more food."

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

That’s rich.

^ill^ ^see^ ^myself^ ^out^

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[–] sumguyonline 53 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It's funny at this point. Either the rich pay their share or we Mangione them. Tick tock musky. Tik fuckin tok.

[–] uberdroog 46 points 1 day ago
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's funny, I listened to Steve Bannon's war room the other day and he was demanding that they not touch social security and go after the elites and the NGOs instead. Can't imagine this will play well with the voters that swung towards the republicans

[–] A_Random_Idiot 27 points 1 day ago

oh i'm sure the voters will do the same thing they always do.

Rabidly support it until its too late, then go full "I didnt think he was going to hurt MY social security! Its not me hes supposed to be hurting! Its the poors! and the minorities! Why is he hurting me?! I'm a loyal supporter!"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

So Bannon's the Röhm of this administration? Interesting to see when and how they give him the shove.

[–] [email protected] 120 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wow! Who woulda guessed they would immediately reneg on a campaign "promise" and immediately attack the side of the population that most reliably votes for them?

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Feathercrown 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] TipRing 60 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes, they want to roll back the entire New Deal and have corporate serfdom again. They have been saying it for years and now they have their chance.

[–] tootoughtoremember 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

More and more I feel we are seeing the pendulum swing. Normally we see 5-10 year cycles of push and pull along the political spectrum, but I'm becoming increasingly convinced we're in a century long cycle too.

We no longer have those with living memory of the gilded age, losing those who remember the saving grace that was the New Deal, and fewer and fewer left who were sent to war to fight fascism. Meanwhile the wealth gap is worsening in developed nations across the world, democratic republics are electing more far right parties and authoritarian leaders with populist messages, and the incoming administration is floating the idea of scrapping the FDIC and deregulating anything else on his favorite billionaire's wishlist.

Seems like we're right on track for a repeat of the 1930s.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Bahahahahaha.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Don't worry, the cuts will drain social security just in time for when you go to collect. Current recipients will go un affected. I have no insider knowledge, I just understand that corporate America hates my generation.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 day ago (4 children)

"But they won't take away MY social security…"

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