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lol .... Private health care sends thousands or even millions to an early death and no one says anything or cares for a moment

One CEO gets killed and now we start asking questions about the state of private health care

Disgusting narrative. The violence in this story was mostly committed by the CEO. Its his violence that we must be talking about

Experts see this as part of a broader trend toward violence over societal disputes, reflecting ~~deep dissatisfaction with~~ anger at the blatant corruption of the American healthcare system.

FTFY

Wait, let's see... I have to spend hundreds of dollars a month so when I get sick or injured, I have to pay hundreds of dollars upfront to meet a requirement to still pay a large portion of the bill. All so some mediocre guy with excessive wealth can buy another yacht. My health is a commodity to them. And I'm supposed to give ANY fucks when it all goes wrong for them? Did that dude spare even a moment to think about the people choosing a slow agonizing death to spare their family a life of medical debt? This man ran a racket that paid for his vacations with people's lives, and now it's come back to bite him (to death). I ain't mad.

I like this headline because for once the “sparks outrage” cliche has some real meaning to it.

People have been mad about healthcare for ages. But it hasn’t lit up, it’s just sort of passively lingering like a gas leak. All it took was one snap to light the flames.

Anyway, I don’t condone violence but this shouldn’t come as a surprise. The rotten egg smell is everywhere and we’ve tried calling the gas department for decades and no one has come to help. If there are further victims of violence, the majority of the blood will be on the hands of the oppressive class who failed to protect themselves by treating their subordinates as human.

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. -JF damn K

UnitedHealthcare, a major industry player, has faced scrutiny for practices perceived as prioritizing profit over patients.

Perceived? Of course they prioritize profit over patients. They, along with every other capitalist firm, must prioritize profit over every other consideration. Everything is secondary to maximum, ever increasing profits.

While his murder shocked many

His murder shocked literally nobody.

Curiously, successive governments in the UK (where The Guardian is based) have been slowly destroying the National Health Service.

Its not the health care that is at fault. Its the useless insurance companies that degrade it. The practicing medical professionals are as a rule competent and engaged in their profession. The problems starts at the admin level of any medical organization and just get more inefficient the lower it goes in the chain.

Sympathy out of network

Maybe you shouldn't have an accountant in charge of a "healthcare" company.

I'm sorry for the multiple comments. I have a lot of background and trauma related to dealing with health insurance companies. They are parasites sucking out the blood of those who can least afford it and ruining their lives when they can't pay the bills left over after they deny claims.

Experts see this as part of a broader trend toward violence over societal disputes

If you take away everything, at some point, people have nothing to lose

From FDR to ~1981 we invested in the creation of a middle class. Oh yes, the middle class was created by government subsidy. The 1950s was unique because the prosperous creation blasted into the American scene for the first time. It evolved from there, in part, because it was also being built on the backs of women being crushed into singular stifling roles. Go ahead, ask your boomer mom about her mom, how happy and sane and unmedicated she was. Outliers exist. But that piece is for another thread.

Subsidizing middle class began to be peeled away ~1981. Basically, the theory was, investing in the investors and corporate is simply more efficient, financially, and will trickle down to the rest of society. We’ve all felt the long term impact of that experiment and it’s not making anyone working class very happy.

2021, yea GramPOTUS started to peel back up pre1981. Have we felt it? Teamsters maybe in knowing they still have a retirement, but the truth of it is, breaking shit has lasting impact and turning it around will not be felt for a while.

I highly doubt 2025 will subsidize the middle class and try to get us back to pre-1981. But we will see.

My point is, this financial squeeze is the culmination of 40yrs of government policy. Bezos gets a penis rocket, we get lack of homes, healthcare debt, the inability to raise children due to costs, and a wonderful feeling of anxiety and anger.

Either way. 1950s or the present crushing situation: government created.

There is no other way this ends. The corpos are so moneyblind that they don't see it.

Okay I was trying to do a "citation needed" joke but superscripts don't seem to work.

WHo was "shocked" by this?

Option 1: Vote for Democrats / vote for a woman for president to get incremental improvements to healthcare and society.
Americans: yawn

Option 2: Start murdering the powerful capitalist oligarchs which will lead to zero improvements in healthcare and society but fuels fantasies of revenge and temporarily feels good.
Americans: “Yay!”

Edit: I’m not even saying we need to pick just one option. But shouldn’t Option 1 also be “yay” if Option 2 is? Why limit how pressure is applied to just picking the violent option? It’s weird how even marches and unions get a lukewarm response compared to vigilantism.

And these replies I’m getting are interesting. I didn’t expect so many attempts to justify that only a violent option ever would do any good. Let’s say that violence is the most effective option. Does that really mean we don’t try any other options? If I was this inflexible in my day-to-day life, I’d never get anything done.