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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think this is a bad map. No data, no sourcing, no analysis, nothing. It’s just clickbaity nonsense. Those aren’t even counties it’s just cutting the country up into random squares cause lord knows how forked the map projection is.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Those aren’t even counties it’s just cutting the country up into random squares

hey, if it works for voting

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (5 children)
[–] pm_me_your_thoughts 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're not even being subtle. What's their excuse?

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[–] roguetrick 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maryland's sixth used to be pretty hilarious too. They put an urban center connected to an Appalachian rural expanse with a little corridor to drown out the rural votes. It's a little less nonsensical nowadays though.

The third doesn't look like that anymore btw. It's a solid block now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

No. 3 is actually the opposite of gerrymandering. That “headphone district” connects two Latino communities https://youtu.be/A-4dIImaodQ?t=833

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Yeah but it doesn’t so…

[–] Xeroxchasechase 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't know why, but I was expecting a bar chart

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Blocking you for like 30 mins in case you have any more like that

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a chart about bars, hence a 'bar chart.'

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I didn’t need this

_/s 🫣

[–] BitSound 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] ChicoSuave 2 points 1 week ago

Between the lead pipes and alcohol, the upper Midwest seems to weed out the thinkers.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

When there's nothing else to do, people drink. I went to college at the top of Michigan's upper peninsula, and there was a running joke at my school, that there were only two ways out: You either drop out, or you graduate an alcoholic

[–] SlopppyEngineer 10 points 1 week ago

Why not both? One guy at school had to drop out because his liver was so damaged because of drinking.

[–] grue 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

But there's red dots at a lot of the big cities (edit: at least in the South). That's the opposite of "nothing else to do."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You ever been in a big city in the South? They aren't the densely packed walkable and/or public transportation heavy big towns like New York or Chicago. The old parts of town that were designed before cars now have narrow densely trafficked streets paved through them with inadequate parking and no real "park here and take public transport in," nearly none of them have commuter rail, some might have bus services. The majority of the city is just heavy suburbs, miles upon miles of retail strip malls and tract housing.

Even when you compare places like Greensboro to places like Sanford, you start going "Well there's more brewpubs...which are bars. There's more restaurants...that serve alchohol. There's a comedy club...that serves alcohol. Greensboro is Sanford if Sanford had a functioning mall and a minor league baseball team. If you live there, at 6 pm on a given Thursday you can stay home or you can go out to a bar and that's about it.

[–] grue 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You ever been in a big city in the South? They aren't the densely packed walkable and/or public transportation heavy big towns like New York or Chicago. The old parts of town that were designed before cars now have narrow densely trafficked streets paved through them with inadequate parking and no real "park here and take public transport in," nearly none of them have commuter rail, some might have bus services. The majority of the city is just heavy suburbs, miles upon miles of retail strip malls and tract housing.

-- an Atlantan

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Y'all too, huh?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

There are way too many of these US dots outside of the US for my liking.

[–] LovableSidekick 10 points 1 week ago

If you're a drinker you know where the liquor store is. If you drink a lot you know what time it closes. If you drink too much you know what time it opens.

[–] roguetrick 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anything you wanna talk about Wisconsin?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Don't worry, Wisconsin's top lobbying organization by dollars spent will speak to you for the state populace

[–] frickineh 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Interesting. A lot of the red spots in CO, at least, are places with not many people, so they only have one grocery store. If there are 2 bars, they'd meet the criteria. The center left spot looks like it's where a lot of the ski towns are - small permanent populations (and getting smaller thanks to most of the housing stock being on airbnb), lots of tourists. Of course there would be more bars, and probably restaurants.

The giant red swaths are uh...a little more concerning.

[–] Breadhax0r 7 points 1 week ago

I grew up in central Wisconsin, can confirm there are more bars than grocery stores lol

[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I would think most places would have more bars than grocery stores. Even a pretty big town usually only needs what, 5 or 6 grocery stores for a population of under 100,000? And they can be more distant. People like bars to be near them and they generally don't have the capacity of a grocery store, so you need more of them. Overhead is much lower too, obviously.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

6 grocery stores for 100'000 people? here in sweden that's not enough grocery stores for 50k!

with 100k people i'd expect at least 20 stores, if not more.

[–] affiliate 6 points 1 week ago

in my experience, the grocery stores in sweden tend to be considerably smaller than the grocery stores in the united states. pretty much every grocery store in the US is larger than an ica maxi. there needs to be room for all 20 flavors of toothpaste and all 40 flavors of oreos.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unless you're counting shit like Dollar General, not even close to that many in the U.S.

I don't even know how they would survive with that low number of customers. Why would you even need 20?

[–] BottleOfAlkahest 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That person is probably thinking of European size stores. I think grocery stores in the US might just be bigger on average than they are in Sweden? We have some big mega stores here compared to Europe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

yeah ours are oftentime closer to convenience stores, and distributed fairly evenly so people largely just go to the closest one. Stuff like walmart is terrifyingly big, that's what i'd consider an entire mall.

[–] SwordInStone 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You must mean grocery stores in us sense (i. e. gigantic)

This is for shops in a 75k city in my country. I guess there are far more that are not shown at this zoom.

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 1 week ago

I do, but then it’s a map of the U.S.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought we wanted walkable cities with grocery stores on every corner???

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

the fuck is going on in upstate new york? wisconsin checks out, but why is upstate NY an isolated hot spot? it's not like they drink more than PA or VT

[–] cazssiew 6 points 1 week ago

A lot of people from the city have second homes there, vacation spots. Maybe that can explain it?

[–] teamevil 5 points 1 week ago

I'm currently in Wisconsin and am greatly pleased with the bar offerings....my family is from Buffalo...I understand

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Virginia doesn't have bars. They have restaurants that may have a bar in them. Even breweries with tap rooms have minimum food sales requirements.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I live in a small town in Wisconsin. The bars happen to also be the best restaurants. Doesn't make them not bars if they serve food

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

California has a similar law in that any establishment that serves booze also has to serve food to some degree

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah that's how some get away with it lol. Our local American Legion Post just has hotdogs on a roller for a couple hours a day, plus peanuts in bowls on the bar. Really it also comes down to local enforcement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

You reminded me of a Pennsylvania grocery store that finally got a license to sell new types or quantities of alcohol. But a food sale was required with each purchase, so of course they had something like 50¢ macarons next to the register!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] fireweed 4 points 1 week ago

It's not a difficult bar (heh) to clear. Keep a stock of frozen pizzas on hand, have a cheap countertop pizza oven, bam, food requirement satisfied.

[–] Sam_Bass 7 points 1 week ago

Hey alcohol warms yer innards mates

[–] SpiceDealer 4 points 1 week ago

Wisconsin, are you okay?

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