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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Am i seeing this right, that you can buy raw milk in grocery stores? What the fuck?

Raw milk gets bad way to fast in order to sell it in a grocery store.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 55 minutes ago

Louis Pasteur is rolling in his grave, watching them raw milk drinkers.

[–] Etterra 12 points 2 hours ago

America, home of the brave and land of fucking around and finding out.

[–] RizzRustbolt 3 points 1 hour ago

Slow pastuerization kills the same amount of microbes as flash... without killing all the flavor of the milk.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Wonder if they tried heating the milk up to 63 degrees C for 30 mins before consumption?

Maybe that would help.

[–] LovableSidekick 12 points 2 hours ago

Nah just add a little ivermectin and you're good!

[–] OldChicoAle 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you say crazy, nonsense things like that?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

Sorry, I am out of line.

But I do think it could catch on.

[–] nroth 2 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

I wish they would irradiate it instead of boiling. Irradiation is completely safe and preserves the nutritional benefits. But the raw milk people are generally opposed to that, and irradiation has a PR problem. Sadness.

[–] BreadOven 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Pasteurization doesn't boil the milk though.....

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

UHT does, 140C for 2-5 seconds. Shelf-stable without refrigeration for up to nine months unless you open it.

Frankly speaking the difference between milk from cows with good diet vs. from cows fed protein slop is greater than between the modes of processing.

Still have PTSD from my mother feeding me raw milk -- unlike in the US it's legal here, also heavily regulated so it wasn't a health risk microbiology-wise but boy am I sensitive to even slight off-tastes in milk because yes you're going to interrupt the cooling chain and no that fridge doesn't have 8C. Unless you're a cheesemaker or such and it's necessary for the process, stay away from raw.

And, no, it doesn't have health benefits. Maybe if your kid doesn't play outside in the mud and the milk is the only source of germs they're exposed to, then it may help them to not develop autoimmune disorders. Be sane, choose mud over milk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

Only time I've had raw milk was when I was a kid and visited farming friends, since they had a pitcher in the fridge from that days milking. They used it in cooking usually, but it wasn't that bad to drink.

The laws regarding cow and milk health is way different in Sweden that most other countries though, very strict routines around testing. We can eat raw eggs from the store.

Milk: https://www.livsmedelsverket.se/globalassets/foretag-regler-kontroll/branschriktlinjer/mjolkens-kvalitet---kontroll-av-den-obehandlade-mjolkens-kvalitet.pdf

Eggs and birds:

https://jordbruksverket.se/djur/djurskydd-smittskydd-djurhalsa-och-folkhalsa/aktuellt-lage-for-smittsamma-djursjukdomar/salmonella

https://www.livsmedelsverket.se/livsmedel-och-innehall/bakterier-virus-parasiter-och-mogelsvampar1/bakterier/salmonella

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 minutes ago

You know that exact kind of thing is why you're known as arrogant swots all over Europe, don't you? Do you google whether Denmark has safe tap water before going on ølviking?

[–] auzy 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

What nutritional benefits does it preserve exactly?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Does it taste different? Of raw milk tastes different than pasteurized milk than radiated milk might taste different too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 47 minutes ago

It taste differently and it usually hasnt gone through the separation of cream from the milk so it has high fat content and sometimes fat drops on the surface

[–] WarlordSdocy 8 points 3 hours ago

I also imagine on the company side it's probably more expensive to do that rather than just making it hot enough.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm cool with idiots who don't know any better getting what's coming to them... but I'm not really cool with them sneezing on the same door handles I turn.

[–] veni_vedi_veni 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Except the same people end up serving it to their kids

[–] [email protected] 1 points 36 minutes ago

Weird. I thought they were anti-abortion.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Fun fact:

The dairy was fined in 2023 for a Salmonella outbreak and is very militantly anti-government.

The why seems pretty clear.

[–] bblkargonaut 2 points 4 hours ago

They really should start selling it and marketing it as never frozen fresh. It'll be even more effective that way once its legal nationwide.

[–] dohpaz42 133 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

I bet the solution is so fast, it’s past your eyes before you know it.

Edit: for anybody who is hearing impaired.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

Past-yer-eyes milk. Nice.

[–] chemical_cutthroat 39 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Sounds like something a guy named Louie would think of.

[–] Agent641 2 points 1 hour ago

Louie CK? Funny guy, weird shaped penis.

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[–] spicytuna62 100 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Some relatively unknown French microbiologist is rolling in his grave right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

"LOUIS PASTEUR WAS A FASCIST IN LINE WITH THE NEW WORLD ORDER!" - Big D

[–] [email protected] 44 points 12 hours ago

Sacre Bleu!

[–] uservoid1 70 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Just have a spoon of pesticides after drinking that pure natural raw milk. If it's good for the corn it's good for you.

[–] gac11 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget to sun your taint. I hear that cures all sorts of things

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