Unfortunately, I feel like trump might simply close a lot of these agencies and replace with his own corrupt ones
It's one of the things dictators do
And his fan base will love that he's doing something and blame it on Biden
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And the party of law and order is pissed that Biden actually follows the law?
Anyone who still thinks Republicans are the party of Law and Order hasn't been paying attention.
I never said they were.
Good. Democrats need to start playing hardball to combat the GOP's anti-democratic antics.
Maybe letting this guy think the rules somehow don't apply to him wasn't such a good idea after all.
“Trump learned his lesson.”
— Susan Collins
I hate her more each day.
She never said what lesson he had learned.
I mean, they didn't let him think, they told him outright the rules didn't apply to him
I mean, they don't. Clearly.
“Biden refused to cooperate with us!”
I mean it's their loss no matter who they try to blame. The transition team already isn't expecting midterms to go well for Trump, so they're trying to set as much up they can on day one. One of the things Trump wants to bring back is schedule F so that he can start firing people.
There's a problem with tat though. It's statutory language indicates that departments will require a determination for reclassification. Absent that, everyone fired would have an opportunity to file suit and if it's enough of any given State opens the State to file Federal suit to block the executive order.
One of the things they can do to speed things up would be to have those rosters right now to review. But that they're getting blocked because of failure to work with legally required ethics, means they'll be behind the ball on day one. As much as Trump wants to, all those employees have legally binding contracts that require careful consideration to undo them without massive challenge.
With the President-elect's team not looking positive for midterms, they've got a lot of things to get done on their to-do list and not exactly a lot of time to do them in. Trump's agenda is already starting to suffer too much water for too narrow a drain. Every minute he's delayed is putting those to-do items from "getting done" to "must prioritize this list".
But all of this is Trump's scales to balance. He can skip out of the ethics filings but that comes with the cost of having a bit over 70 day delay to get some of the more basic things done. And right now, he's got time on hand. Confirmation hearings aren't going on, which even Republicans in the Senate are going to be asking for favors for their State in order to stomach some of the people Trump is passing over. This is one of the reasons Trump wants to skip all of this and have recessed appointments. Trump isn't interested in playing the favors game, but every single person in Congress has their career to think about long after Trump is gone. They want wins they can go home with.
So waiting to day one means he'll need teams reviewing the employment roster for his schedule F idea and he'll need teams in Congress helping to convince members to get his agenda enacted. He's going to have a lot of stretched thin groups which means getting things done are going to take longer to get done. Time that Trump doesn't have.
So he can blame Biden all he wants, his followers can believe whatever they want to believe. At the end of the day, Trump's agenda either gets implemented or it doesn't. It's a pretty binary outcome. Trump is going to whine about Biden or Democrats when his policy ideas fall apart, that's just how Trump operates. He has no ability to see the issues within himself and learn from them to get better. So there's no stopping Trump from blaming everyone but himself, that's just never going to happen.
So Trump will absolutely say that, the more important thing is his policy not getting any feet.
Republicans are going to cry the whole way for the next four years. That's just who they are. We have to look past that dumb shit and see if things are getting green-lit or waiting on incompetence to clear out. Did Trump get it enacted or not? That's the only thing that matters, all the other shit is just the usual bullshit Republicans cry about. We've long left the whole "meet in the middle" thing, the only thing that should matter is if Trump gets any of his policy enacted or not. The EO stuff, everything he throws is just giving more ideas on which avenues to close off when Democrats take the trifecta next.
Ha, you think there are going to be midterms.
Honestly I think there will be. Trump has always treated anyone he considers an underling (hell, anyone who isn't him for that matter) as disposable. He said you'll never have to vote again but given he's not running for congress there's a fair chance that doesn't apply to midterms simply because he does not give a shit about any of those people.
Well until Congress appeals 2 USC § 7, the law indicates that they are indeed on the schedule. But Article II leaves elections in the hands of Congress and the States to deal with. The President is very much excluded from the process.
But I mean, SCOTUS apparently can do whatever they want. So it's literally could be anything at this point. So who knows? But till 2 USC § 7 is removed, that's what puts it on everyone's calendar. And so far, most of the Courts seem to not hold that particular law in question.
"Since there's so much evidence that the midterm elections are rigged, we're going to have to postpone them."
That's not a power the President has. The President cannot postpone them and they aren't included as an emergency power. So he can't call an emergency and suspend elections. And yes, we've got precedent from the Civil War that elections can't be suspended when we're at war with ourselves.
States can remove themselves, but that just means fewer folks arrive in Congress. Unless the President forcefully dissolves Congress, which would require a lot of the military being okay with murdering elected officials, only Congress can have a say on the law.
The President can indicate that they're rigged and what have you. But he only gets away with it, if Congress or the Courts or both goes along with it. That's the only means that doesn't require murdering people. All the other methods will require force. Including the "it's all rigged". California can have their midterm election, certify it, and send their members of Congress to DC. If Trump stops them, they can sue to be rightfully seated. That requires the Courts to go along with it. If the Courts allow them in, but the Speaker won't acknowledge them or grant them a vote, that's Congress going along with it.
The only way the Executive alone prevents a member of Congress from taking their duly elected seat is shooting them in the head. That's it, that's the only means. All the other methods require some other ⅓ of our Government being cool with the heist.
You mean it would be a crime to do that? SCOTUS has spoken on that already.
There probably will be, but election certification may make them void.
There are a lot of effective avenues for fuckery short of just outright banning things thay ends up having the same effect.
They should just sign them. It's not like they'll experience consequences for violating them.
This is their way of sticking their tongue out, like a damn child.
No. This is a test. Just like Gaetz was. They're seeing where the lines are right now.
Like a fucking toddler pushing boundaries and then throwing a tantrum on the floor at Walmart when he doesn't get a toy.
Think of it more like an amorphous mass, slowly pushing against an old wooden door until creaks, just to see if its locked.
My mind went to the raptors in Jurassic Park, constantly testing the system and taking advantage of any holes/exploits.
Its so hard to tell with Trump. Was it a test or just ignorance or something else.
For example, they've already pulled so many people from the house for Trumps administration that the Republicans only have I think a one seat majority now (if I mathed correctly).
If I was in Trump's orbit I'd be using him as a gravity slingshot to get my own desires considered. Just throw ideas at him that I know he'd consider because I worded it in a way that he likes, or better yet led him on so he believes he had the idea first.
Basically, Trump is a showman, a frontman, not the main man. He's just bigger than life and casts a long shadow where the real demons can lay.
I’m sure that’s what most are doing. I’d even say that for most of Project 2025. That’s a conservative wishlist and I don’t see how Trump cares either way about most of it, but the people he’s putting in position clearly do. As long as they are “loyal” to Trump they can get pursue own agenda. As long as Trump remans center of attention and gets personal gain he’s probably good with whatever they want
That's effectively my assessment. I've never viewed Trump as the main threat. He's just the mouth and head and while he might bite, it's so very often based on the whim of the body and the whispers of those nearby. That said, if a natural passing took him tonight we'd see a lot of what has been built crumble. My worry is he'll end up being like that Grandma who smoked for 50 years and died in her sleep: Largely immune to his life of imbalance, greed, and gluttony, and able to live long enough to properly pass the torch. Cause make no mistake, if he passed in a way that was unquestionably natural, we'd quickly see rifts form.
That's just it too. If you want any strategy to combat the next two years it'll be through the undermining of the various subtle factions in the MAGA and GOP. It's already there, we just gotta poke it in the correct spots to send up sparks in the right places.
Ethics agreement his administration put into place if I'm not mistaken. An ethics agreement that was legally required to be signed and posted publicly on their campaign website by Oct 1st.
If he didn’t follow or challenge the rules he put into place it should go to the runner up. It won’t but it should
He doesn't give a shit - all he's going to do with those agencies is to gut/destroy/exploit them for personal gain. He doesn't need any playbook, he's been destroying things his whole life.
I mean they came in with a plan to dissolve and refund agencies....what incentive do they have to work with the incoming team?