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submitted 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) by negativenull to c/tenforward
 

With the unforgettable characters:

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago
[–] Dasus 27 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Set in "the near future" (the year 2018 in the first season)

Uff.

[–] negativenull 29 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The 90's were peak optimism. It's all downhill from there

[–] Dasus 15 points 17 hours ago

Yeah binging 90's scifi is very soothing.

Until you hit those depressingly real near future depictions.

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

The third season was a skip forward to 2032 and it was somewhat better, but still pretty stupid.

Like they had an android character who was a great big guy but had a simple, child-like brain. What the hell was the point of that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

android character who was a great big guy but had a simple, child-like brain

kind of AI like, when you think about it.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 hour ago

Except I literally mean childlike. He talked like he was a preschooler. It was super stupid.

And I looked it up later last night since I have not watched that shit since the 90s and it turns out actually no, he's not an android, he's part of a genetically engineered species of subhuman slave that most people seem totally cool with in 2032 and some people are bigoted towards them. Also, he looked like he was in his 30s, which means that the 'breed genetic slaves that talk like preschoolers' program should have started around the time the show was being made. Weird that no one noticed.

Also also, the bigoted term for them is GELF, which is amusing if you know Red Dwarf. Especially since it's for the same reason.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Like they had an android character who was a great big guy but had a simple, child-like brain. What the hell was the point of that?

I'm sure there's a contract that says if you employ one DeLuise brother on a show you need to give the other one a bit part.

It would explain Wormhole Xtreme

[–] Deway 5 points 13 hours ago

Don't diss Wormhole X-treme, there's a reason it, allegedly, performed very well on DVD.

[–] Dasus 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't read that whole comment, because I don't want any spoilers as I might try this show as it's one of the rare 90's scifis I don't think I've seen.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Trust me, don't. If you want mostly forgotten 90s sci-fi, there are so many better choices: Odyssey 5, Jeremiah, Earth 2, The Adventures of Briscoe County, Jr., Lexx.

Even animated ones like Invasion: America and Exosquad are better. Plus, Invasion: America has Leonard Nimoy in it!

Seriously, I would put Sliders above either SeaQuest DSV or SeaQuest 2032 and it sucked.

[–] AngryRobot 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Odyssey 5

Do you mean Babylon 5?

[–] AngryRobot 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think I missed Invasion:America. Know anywhere I could see it?

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 hour ago

Yes! For some reason, it is on YouTube in two long parts rather than broken up into episodes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEzUt4EotkU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohAuAyCBFdM

There are two versions, a prime time version and a version edited down for kids. I believe this is the prime time version with a lot more violence.

[–] Deway 6 points 13 hours ago

The first two seasons (and the first half of season 3) of Sliders were great. The rest, yeah, should join E.T on Atari 2600 in its burial site.

[–] negativenull 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Such a great show! The world building was amazing! (Plus, Clancy Brown!)

Similarly, I've been re-watching the Alien Nation TV series lately. I forgot the extent of the world-building done in that show. It's truly impressive for just one season and a few TV movies.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Clancy Brown is great but Tim Curry is amazing, poppet

[–] negativenull 2 points 13 hours ago

peak Tim Curry for sure

[–] negativenull 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I haven't seen that. I'll add it to my list!

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Oh definitely! And don't bother watching the film first. They change a lot from it like Stargate SG-1 did. If you don't know the plot, a space ship of alien slaves breaks down over Los Angeles and after several years, it's decided that they get to be made citizens. A "Newcomer" cop works with a bigoted human that slowly learns to respect their culture.

Edit: And, of course, there's a Trek connection or two- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Pierpoint

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

No mention of Space: Above & Beyond?

I thought I knew you, dude

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I never got into it back then and I never got back to it. I should.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 4 points 14 hours ago

It would be nice to have another human who understands what I mean when I say "Raymond T. Butts has ate his last pancake"

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 30 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

The reason it failed was that it didn't mimic Star Trek enough, with geopolitics and court room episodes.

But Star Trek could learn something by having an astrophysicist come on at the end of the show and talk space science like this show did with Robert Ballard.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago

Also, I had no idea that his bit at the end of his 30 Rock episode was satiring that in particular.

[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 16 hours ago

The episode where Roy Scheider talks to Jonathan Brandis about using a condom was one of the most cringey things ever put on American TV.

[–] Aolley 18 points 21 hours ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

This show is pretty fire back in the day, they had some hyper intelligent dolphin doing recon for them

[–] AngryRobot 1 points 4 hours ago

Named Darwin. They had some way of translating his dolphin sounds to a weird synthesized voice that was probably voiced by an actor.

I only watched it because I fell in love with Stacey Haiduk watching her as Lana Lang in Superboy

[–] [email protected] 21 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The first season was really good. The second was labored at times. The third was... something else.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

But it's got Mark Hamill so that's not nothing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 8 points 19 hours ago

No, he was a shapeshifting reptiloid alien trying to get back home

[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

i just recently downloaded this/added it to my library last year. it did not age well. it was pretty awesome back in the day, but its kinda hard to watch now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I feel obligated to subject myself to this. But I appreciate the warning.

[–] negativenull 8 points 20 hours ago

I did exactly the same thing.

[–] negativenull 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] wjrii 17 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I remember being fond of the first season, but it was definitely "wet star trek," complete with a Tiger Beat suitable version of Wesley (RIP Jonathan Brandis, who got chewed up and spit out by Hollywood), especially by the end of season 2 when I stopped watching, apparently along with everyone else.

[–] procrastitron 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I watched all the seasons.

It was kind of poetic that a show about a submarine went so far off the deep end.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 10 points 19 hours ago

There were dozens of us who watched season 3.

Dozens!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

This would have been a great show ....... because we haven't really explored the ocean depths in real life ... I think only 20% of the ocean floor has been mapped so far and of that mapping it wasn't very detailed.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Nah that's a common misconception, a lot of the ocean is mapped to enough resolution to know there's basically nothing there. A lot of the ocean floor is a barren desert with nothing much going on. Some parts have been thoroughly studied, where interesting stuff is going on and where we've put infra like all of the undersea cables (which are a lot). All of it is mapped to some resolution and some parts at higher resolution (you can see on Google maps lines where ships have gone through with better mapping abilities). So saying it hasn't been "explored" or "mapped" is simply false, it has been mapped and has shown to be not interesting. So no nobody went down there, nobody got pictures or centimeter level mapping, but we know how water and sand looks so why bother? It's this implication of something unknown and mysterious, whilst in reality we've just been efficient in what to find. And yes there are new species found in the ocean every day, but you'd need to be an expert to even tell them apart from other species we already know about. There isn't something big and interesting we don't know about. It's a nice story to tell, but it isn't real.

[–] dustyData 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This is a myth, and my heart aches for this show might have contributed to it. We have detailed maps of all the ocean floor, with more or less the same variance as our dry surface maps. We have been to most of the more interesting, extreme and dramatic parts of the depths. Hell, there are oceanographic channels that live stream from deep under on the regular. Sure, there are surely still some things we haven't found, thousands of sunk ships too small to know exactly where they ended up in, or natural phenomenon we probably haven't documented yet. But, on the grand scale of science, we know the ocean floor rather well.

Shout out to EVNautilus.

Here's a neat podcast that talks about this specific myth.

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[–] Skullgrid 9 points 19 hours ago

I have never seen this show.

Live action Sealab with joxer/ted raimi

[–] teft 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

That's Countess Regina Barthalomew front row second from the left.

So this is what she and Moriarty got up to.

[–] radicalautonomy 1 points 13 hours ago

So it is! And Jonathan Brandis on the right...I rember him from that awful Rodney Dangerfield movie Ladybugs. Brandis died not long after.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

No! R2D2 got lost in the stargate! Quickly, Spok, send in the troopers to save him from Lord Zedd!

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