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[–] [email protected] 135 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

The French deserve some respect. If you want to know what a true strike or protest looks like, look to the French.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 month ago (5 children)

More and more these days French disrespect feels like boomer shit. Look what the French did when the government came for their pensions. The industrial action within the transport sector alone.

I was visiting Paris during some of the aforementioned protest. They’re out and about (in numbers) and will gladly get out to protest when they feel it necessary. Plenty of other western countries could learn, a lot, from the French people.

[–] JusticeForPorygon 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I keep saying this and people look at me like I'm some kind of extremist

Like no dude I just want universal healthcare

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

universal healthcare

*me, looking at you like you're some sort of communist

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

The American right would like to categorize it like that but it's not communism at all, it's socialism. I wish they could mischaracterize the correct political philosophy.

[–] jaybone 6 points 1 month ago

I remember when Obama promised us that. Good times.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Look what the French did when the government came for their pensions.

For the record we did get it down from 65 to 64, but we still got +2 years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I appreciate that the outcome may not have been what was strictly desired. The French populace still get off their arse and do more than complain on social media while effectively doing three fifths of fuck all. More than what can be said about some others, especially those who are inclined to make brain devoid white flag jokes.

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[–] EnderMB 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Even today, they just don't give a fuck about rules.

In Southern France there are speed cameras being set up everywhere, and they'll catch you for being even a few km's over. The locals (mostly rural) have responded by either torching them, encasing them in hay bales, painting over them, or chopping them down. The police keep putting them up, alongside cameras to watch the cameras, and the locals keep destroying them overnight.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Also true in the west, where I am, so I presume the same all over France.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The important thing is to burn lots of people's cars. Probably locals who are also protesting.

That's how you really get the attention of the authorities.

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[–] cmder 74 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So yeah why does the american/english don't do more research about origins and call everything french ?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

It's because deep frying was not very common in the U.S. Immersion in hot fat was considered a French style of cooking, so they're French style fried potatoes. I think "fries" instead of "frieds" is dialect that caught on nationally in the U.S. in the 70s.

[–] jaybone 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, it never occurred to anyone ever to stick their tongues in each others mouths until it was documented in ancient India.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

Anon didn't say that it started in ancient India, just that the fact that it happened in ancient India proves that it didn't start in France

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

We generally attribute discoveries to whoever documented it first. It's almost laughable to attribute it to the French based on a kissing style that was widespread there in 1923. Surely people were doing it before then. Yet, the Americans and British found it so unique they referred to it as French kissing.

Perhaps it was common before ancient India, but then the question is, why didn't the ancient Babylonians, Egyptians, Chinese, Romans, and Greek document on it then?

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Just have to triple check whether French revolution occured in French.

[–] InternetCitizen2 17 points 1 month ago

Which gives rise to the true founding father of Germany. Napoleon.

Without his restructuring of the HRE for management it would be even harder to unify later.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

Nobody in France calls French fries or French toast "French". We're definitely happy to attribute the fries to our Belgian friends and nobody thinks something as ubiquitous as toasts could have a single inventor. I think those are Anglo-Saxon cultural elements.

[–] olosta 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

No we are not attributing fries to the Belgian, fries are french. The Belgian improved on our invention and make the best fries, but Frenchs invented it.

Content warning, a lot of french: https://www.musee-gourmandise.be/fr/musee-gourmandise/articles-de-fond?view=article&id=132:la-veritable-histoire-de-la-frite&catid=77:articles-fond

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[–] Valmond 10 points 1 month ago

Also here we call it "cafetière à piston" not french press.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

FIY: French toast is the english name for pain perdu.

Also probably not "invented" by the French, but no one thinks they invented simple toast.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (17 children)

No idea what a French press is. Probably a cafetière ?

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[–] TempermentalAnomaly 37 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Britain is the land mass that includes England, Wales, and Scotland.

William the Conquerer was the first Norman king of England and never had power over Wales and he was mostly successful in gaining homage from King Malcolm III, but never king over the lands.

Edward I about two hundred years later almost pulls it off, but doesn't quite get a firm grip on Scotland. James I in the early 17th century holds the crown for each of the lands. In 1707 they formalize the relationship with a treaty.

So... No the French did not found Britain.

[–] Im_old 18 points 1 month ago

Also Normans were descendants of viking settlers. So French didn't technically fund England either (yes, I'm being pedantic for the sake of the joke).

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[–] IndiBrony 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

> Britain was founded by the French

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon? The son of an Irish immigrant? He’s not the kind of guy who’d let facts get in the way of an opinion so we’re probably pretty solid saying that in front of him. If he did run his mouth, then I got your back, blud.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Belgium is kinda France tbh

[–] InternetCitizen2 7 points 1 month ago

The first step is admitting it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Asidonhopo 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's almost like national borders are fake and peoples just blend into each other

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To save anyone else the wiki trip

“Some authors consider the recipe for Aliter Dulcia (translated as 'Another sweet dish') included in the Apicius, a 1st-century CE Ancient Roman cuisine cookbook, "not very different" from modern French toast, although it does not involve eggs.[10][11]

In Le Viandier, culinary cookbook written around 1300, the French chef Guillaume Taillevent presented a recipe for tostées dorées[12] involving eggs and sugar.[13]”

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

When a dish with 3 ingredients is missing one ingredient, it's not the same dish.

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[–] Phoenix3875 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] JayObey711 14 points 1 month ago

"France" comes from the "franks" who were considered Germans originally

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is not the French claiming ownership of stuff, this is shitty naming on the part of Americans who thinks all european food is from France. Or who really wouldn't know the difference between Europe and France to begin with.

[–] Valmond 7 points 1 month ago

The most elegant and refined food, fries.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The French invented sex. Before then people would just sort of split into two small people who’d then have to grow back to full size, and it was very boring and not very je ne c’est sais quoi.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"We invented democracy, existentialism, and the ménage à trois."

"Oh man... Those are three pretty good things."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Democracy? Explain please, i thought the concept was way older than France.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I'm just quoting Talladega Nights.

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[–] modeler 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Well, technically the French did not found Britain - they were Normans.

Who were the Normans? They were Scandinavian vikings who had been raiding France for decades. Eventually the French king decided to offer them lands (now called Normandy) in France if they promised to stop raiding and instead protect the French coast.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Meh, this is largely a debate over semantics since the mere notion of a "French people" wouldn't have made sense at the time. "Frenchness" isn't an ethnicity, it's a mix of many different peoples that mixed and intertwined over the years (celts, romans, germanic tribes, immigrants from all over Europe...) and that eventually were all brought together as subjects of the french kingdom.

Normans weren't "french" in the modern sense of the word, but then again very few people in what would later become modern France would have at that time : they all would have considered themselves "Provençal", or "Breton", or "Lorrain" who just happened to live in a Duchy that swore fealty to the king of France.

All things considered, William the Conqueror was a lord of the french kingdom, swore fealty to the king of France and spoke French, so he was no less (but no more, granted) French than any other of his peers. Whether you want to call him french is up to you but is largely an anachronism

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