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[–] [email protected] 186 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Hello. I'm from Germany and I have bad news for you. If our own history taught me anything, it's this: When there is a critical mass of citizens (including military personnel) who are willing to ignore common societal values and at the same time there is a corrupt justice system which can just bend the law to their will, there is very little in the way to full scale fascism. You guys have the groundwork for this right in front of your face. Your supreme court is only inches away from fulfilling that role and the last election showed that a majority of people are already blindsided enough to wholeheartedly believe the bullshit that they are being fed.

So please don't take this lightly. Democracy is not for granted and it can be taken away. It's a slow process up to a point where things fall in place and then it happens very quickly. In Germany the rise of the Nazis didn't happen over night. Warning signs were there from the first world war on, and the slow erosion of society along with economic factors was a key element. Hitler himself was widely regarded as a loud mouthed clown with little chance to actually accomplish anything.

The erosion part has been going on in the US for decades now. This time, most of the puzzle pieces needed are already in place.

And about the "they are incompetent, it won't be that bad" argument. They don't need competence to break things when they are in power. Breaking things is precisely what these people are looking for. Destruction of democratic values, economic instability, fear, poverty, chaos and social unrest are the key to more power. You just need to look at the designated cabinet positions. Those candidates were specifically chosen to fuck things up in the worst way imaginable. This is not a coincidence. This is a recipe taken right from the fascist's handbook.

[–] frog_brawler 70 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lot of us know and agree.

[–] Freefall 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We are the ones without any power.

[–] MySkinIsFallingOff 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please find your groups, organize, protest, demand change. We, the rest of the world, saw how big you've protested for good before, and it's needed now more than ever in your country. You're not powerless, you're not alone, and your actions matter.

You live in a country that used to pride itself as a world leader, and while that image is long gone and lost, we're still watching you guys.

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[–] samus12345 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are correct, and those of us who aren't fucking morons have known this since even before he came into power the first time. We have a lot of horrible and/or apathetic people. Democracy is worthless if the populace is uninformed or doesn't participate. Now it's dead here.

[–] ziggurat 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Education should be free, even for the kids if the neighbor you don't like.

Of course it's not free, it costs tax money, but it's okay. Id rather my neighbors had free education, then maybe I'd like them.

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[–] frazw 137 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bracing for "Wait, I didn't think you meant me?!?!?"

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Cool, a leopard! Can I pet it?"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

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Narrator (soft, somber voice): In the wild, leopards are meant to stalk, to hunt, to climb. But for some, this is no longer possible. These are the leopards of the forgotten savanna... the ones who can no longer live the life they were born to lead.

[Cut to a close-up of another leopard, this one lying next to a watering hole, panting heavily. The camera lingers on its enormous, bloated body, its paws barely able to reach the ground. The leopard’s eyes seem vacant, devoid of the wild spark they once had.]

Narrator: Overfed and unable to move, these leopards have been left to a slow, painful existence. They can no longer hunt their prey, no longer climb the trees to escape danger, no longer feel the thrill of the chase. They are trapped in their own bodies.

[Cue the soft, mournful opening chords of "Angel" by Sarah McLachlan. The camera slowly pans over a third leopard, sluggishly trying to rise, but its massive weight prevents it from standing. It lets out a heavy sigh, its once-strong legs buckling beneath it.]

Narrator: They are the forgotten victims of a world that has abandoned them. Too fat to run, too weak to fight... These leopards are slowly fading, one breath at a time. They need your help.

[Cut to a shot of a leopard staring out over the savanna. The camera lingers on its face, eyes half-closed, its expression one of quiet resignation.]

Narrator: For just $3 a day, you can provide the care and support these leopards so desperately need. A donation will help give them the chance to live a life of dignity. Help them find their way back to the wild they were meant to roam.

[The music swells as the camera fades to black, and the words "Your donation can make a difference" appear in white text on the screen.]

Narrator (whispering): Please, don’t let them suffer in silence. The time to act is now.

[The music fades out, and the SPCA logo appears in the corner, along with a toll-free number and website for donations.]

[–] Diplomjodler3 94 points 1 month ago (24 children)

Next up: arson attack on US Congress. And then the Enabling Act.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Like the German version of Nazis before them, they aren't coming for their biggest target first. They're coming for their political opposition, the "abortionists", the atheists, the drug users, the mentally ill...

RFK Jr.:

"I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it— to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities,"

Re-education camps, huh.

[–] Hobbes_Dent 70 points 1 month ago (5 children)

"prepared to declare a national emergency and will use military assets to reverse the Biden invasion through a mass deportation program."

  • Trump reposted Fitton's comment Monday with the caption, "TRUE!!"

I don’t even know what to say. I’m gobsmacked to depression daily that you’re ok with this.

[–] brucethemoose 73 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

But EGG PRICES! The economy!

And he's such a strong leader...

(I am paraphrasing actual interviews our local networks did with college students)

[–] Today 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think we need to start using strongman in conversation more for the people who don't know what it means.

[–] brucethemoose 13 points 1 month ago

I'm afraid it would just bolster his image. Become a tiktok meme or something...

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago

Hey, the democratic party wasn't close enough to the workers so there was no alternative..

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[–] Gammelfisch 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, the Orange Turd plans on suspending the US Constitution and using the so-called national emergency to go for the full power grab. I certainly hope the US military upholds the pledge to protect the US Constitution.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The US president is the commander in chief and the US military is subservient to US president, never mind how many of them come from the MAGA cult bubble themselves. The military is a poor safeguard for democracy.

[–] Gammelfisch 21 points 1 month ago

The oath to protect the US Constitution from foreign and domestic enemies takes priority. You are correct in one regard, it will depend on the military leadership and soldiers.

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[–] dragontamer 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (21 children)

There are not enough ICE officers to conduct mass deportation in red states, let alone blue ones. Trump will require cooperation of local police.

If he uses the military in Blue states, it's an obvious attack on the 10th Amendment. It's also illegal to use the military for domestic police work.

We can bet on incompetence for now. Trump needs to grow ICE to a large size before he's even able to conduct a large scale deportation plan of any kind. Deploying the National Guard would be a faux pas, but that's probably the workaround else need to prepare for legally.

[–] justhach 82 points 1 month ago (23 children)

Oh no, its illegal to use the military for domestic police work? Deploying the National Guard would be a "faux pas"?

Well, I'm sure that will stop him for sure!

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[–] CharlesDarwin 19 points 1 month ago

Stoking a violent insurrection while plotting a coup violated a few laws and norms, too.

[–] PineRune 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Trump will require cooperation of local police.

Plenty of pigs are already on his side, and would help him with this willingly.

Also, as president, SCOTUS has already ruled that he can pretty much do what he wants as long as it's an "official" act.

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[–] enbyecho 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know what amazes me? That any vaguely brown person who voted for Trump didn't seem to think that even if they are literally carrying their papers at all times and easily able to prove their citizenship, they are gonna be harassed constantly for the next four years. With hopeful some state exceptions, they are going to have to be very careful to speak only 'Murican in public and suppress public display of non-American cultures. They are literally going to be having to watch their backs every day.

WTF.

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[–] NineMileTower 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The guy who couldn't build A WALL is going to orchestrate a mass deportation on millions and millions of people? Ok. Lol. Also, what happens when fruit/vegetables start to rot on the vine because they don't have anyone who will take their shit wages to do it.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (18 children)

he will 100% focus on “Democrat cities” before he ever rounds up farm workers.

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[–] brucethemoose 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Every single bad thing about this country, from now on, will be prepended with "Biden"

It shall be law.

I'm not actually sure if I'm joking.

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[–] Maggoty 20 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Well. The chips are down. Your move Generals.

For what it's worth I think there's going to be a ton of pushback. To the point where using the military for this becomes infeasible.

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[–] TomMasz 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Saw this one coming. He'll do the same to justify ending elections.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)
  • this is terrifying.
  • This does not sound legally permissible, see posse comitatus.
  • Members of the military have an obligation to refuse illegal orders. I am neither in the military nor a lawyer, so I can’t go too deep on that.

Even if we see (likely) “act first, let it wind through the courts later,” I’d expect there to be a substantial number of refusals.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Everything will be a national emergency to pass any and everything they want to.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

How do we gum up the works?

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