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[–] RizzRustbolt 1 points 50 minutes ago

Even Scroob would be an improvement.

[–] Sniatch 10 points 9 hours ago

EU and China should put a CO2 tax on products from thr US if they want burn the planet

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I don't think kamala "frack the planet" harris was gonna make the environment much better

[–] VantaBrandon 16 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

This kind of puritanical shit is pretty much how Trump won

How anyone could be delusional enough to think Trump would be better somehow for the environment is just beyond me

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

trump would not be better but dems have made it clear that they dont really take the environment seriously. They say its a crisis and we have to take action but then they open up more fracking and give more money to military contractors. This doesnt make me a trump voter but it does make me tune them out when they make appeals about climate because I know the dems will still sell the climate down the river in favor of big corporate lobbies when in power. That kind of double talk makes people give up on parties and stop caring.

[–] Luminocta 0 points 21 minutes ago

So, naturally, you chose whoever is actually worse. Because hey at least he means what he's saying...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody’s saying that the climate denier is better for the environment. We’re saying that Kamala, who “believes in science” would be a smokescreen, just like Biden was.

If your climate agenda is to give tax credits to install heat pumps and a ton of money to EV manufacturers, and to not actually tackle the biggest polluters in the country, you don’t have a serious climate plan. Also deeply unserious is slapping tariffs on China’s affordable and reliable solar panels and EVs.

The military is a huge polluter and greenhouse gas emitter. So are suburban neighborhoods and aviation. If you can’t tackle those by realigning foreign policy, infrastructure, and urban development, then you’re not going far enough.

This won’t be solved by giving a ton of money to private companies and hoping they find a profit motive. We’d need a vast expansion of state capacity at this point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 minutes ago

The Inflation Reduction Act included $65 million in research grants for low emission aviation and $245 million in development of biofuel based Sustainable Aviation Fuel (aka SAF). And the $3 billion in loan guarantees for manufacturing advanced vehicle technologies included certain aircraft.

There were also $5 billion in loan guarantees for shutting down our heaviest polluting power plants or retooling them to greener generation methods.

There was $3 billion in buying zero emissions vehicles and charging infrastructure for the postal service.

The Inflation Reduction Act, which inherited a lot of the stuff from the Green New Deal, was a lot of things, and I don't think I've ever heard it called deeply unserious before today.

[–] markon 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

No, frack you

[–] SquatDingloid 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is going to dismantle the EPA

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Not sure why you are downvoted. This is one of the big lines in project 2025.

[–] drunkpostdisaster 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

'Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn! Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport, or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours.'

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

I've got bad news for you about the other primates...

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 116 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I said on Facebook this morning: "I'm sorry Americans, I hate this for you" and caught a 30 day ban. Amazing. I am so sorry.

[–] Bytemeister 61 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Just give Facebook a permaban. Them banning you is like your boss writing you up for having the best attendance.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't you just love freedom of speech?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I feel like they've been waiting for a chance to do this. I got similarly banned after Roe vs Wade was overturned when I offered to mail abortion pills to Americans. Vice interviewed me about it.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

Look on the bright side, late night political humor is going to get more interesting. They are putting RFK Jr in charge of key public health industries, which is going to create an entertaining amount of karma.

I do hope that the US is able to rush some Ukraine aid, but it does look like Europe is also going to have a hard road ahead. This isn't just Trump winning out, it is a form of undermining democracies winning out, and it will continue to spread much quicker now.

[–] [email protected] 168 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

I hate how this picture is accurate. American inaction on climate change fucks everyone over. There's almost no chance of convincing China and India to reduce emissions if the richest country in the world can't be bothered to lift a finger.

But hey, maybe this will incentivize Elon to double his efforts on colonizing Mars for the super rich!

[–] Resonosity 6 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Actually China is leading the planet on renewables deployment.

I haven't combed through the data in a minute, but I want to also say that they're also leading in fossil fuel deployment too. Probably is due to their population size than anything else.

Don't worry though: America can't stand that China is doing better than them at something, so we're going to try to punish them and frame them as the bad guys since America can be the only one espousing leadership, not the Big Bad East.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I haven't combed through the data in a minute, but I want to also say that they're also leading in fossil fuel deployment too.

Yup, China is also leading the planet on new coal plant construction. As of 2 months ago, it seemed to be on track to add 80GW of coal generation capacity in 2024 alone, and accounts for more than 90% of new coal construction.

By way of comparison, the US peaked in total coal plant capacity in 2011 at 318GW, and has since closed about 134GW of capacity, with more to come.

In context, what we're seeing is massive, massive expansion of electricity generation and transmission capacity, both clean and dirty, in China. We can expect China to increase its total carbon emissions each year to be closer to the West, while the United States reduces its own from a much higher starting point. Maybe the two countries will cross in per capita emissions around 2030 if current trends continue, but there's no guarantee that current trends will continue: will the United States continue to shift from coal to gas? Where does grid scale storage, electrification of passenger vehicles, demand shifting, or dispatchable carbon free power go from here, in a future Trump administration? What's going to happen with the Chinese economy over the next 5 years? What technology will be invented to change things?

[–] Resonosity 1 points 32 minutes ago

Thanks for sharing!

[–] seeyouatthepartyrichter 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Are China the good guys now?

[–] Deway 2 points 6 hours ago

No. But neither are the US and I don't think they ever were. For now, I'd say the EU are the less bad of the biggest (EU, Russia, China, India, and the US) but even we aren't the good guys.

[–] CitizenKong 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It will only incentivize Elon (and all the other filthy rich) to build air conditioned luxury bunkers guarded by AI killerbots in places like New Zealand.

Or maybe something like the titular space station in the movie Elysium, where they enjoy the newest medical treatments while looking down on the rest of humanity trying to survive on a planet that has turned into a helhole.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Yes! New Zealand, we have a bunch of gar-- investors we think you'll like.

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[–] samus12345 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

sees destroyed Statue of Liberty

"They blew it up. Honestly, I get it!"

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[–] Sam_Bass 19 points 1 day ago

yep. the lofty goals of clean, cool future are wiped away and replaced with the more basement boons of high, fast burn out.

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