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[–] [email protected] 171 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

I hate how this picture is accurate. American inaction on climate change fucks everyone over. There's almost no chance of convincing China and India to reduce emissions if the richest country in the world can't be bothered to lift a finger.

But hey, maybe this will incentivize Elon to double his efforts on colonizing Mars for the super rich!

[–] CitizenKong 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It will only incentivize Elon (and all the other filthy rich) to build air conditioned luxury bunkers guarded by AI killerbots in places like New Zealand.

Or maybe something like the titular space station in the movie Elysium, where they enjoy the newest medical treatments while looking down on the rest of humanity trying to survive on a planet that has turned into a helhole.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes! New Zealand, we have a bunch of gar-- investors we think you'll like.

[–] captainlezbian 10 points 3 weeks ago

Well, we’re going to be acting on it now. Very pro

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

I hope he does and that all the billionaires join on the maiden flight, we're gonna get rid of the worst scum in one single swoop. I mean, chances are that things will go as well in space/on Mars as his self driving teslas, so please do that ASAP

[–] GladiusB 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is my biggest concern. Like whatever on economy. Do I want more for everyone? Absolutely. But those can come back in 5-10 years.

The environment doesn't have that long. We had the hottest summer and about to have the coldest winter and they are all like "let's go orange man!" And not giving a fuck what they leave for the next generation. So fuckin selfish. I hate them so much.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They don't care because they will be dead before they ever see the effects of their selfishness. They will literally never have any consequence.

I'm sure they know in their hearts that their descendants will suffer and die because of what they do today, but they don't plan on ever feeling bad about it because at the end they will be safe, warm and comfortable in their beds, surrounded by their loving families, after a lifetime of luxuries. Everything to gain and nothing to lose. Why not fuck the planet?

[–] HasturInYellow 7 points 3 weeks ago

I work with young trump supporters starting families. They will be hurt so much by this bullshit.

I hope they can hear me laughing at them until they fucking die. They can all eat shit. Everyone's future is turbo fucked now because of their selfishness, and they will not be spared. I wish them every misery.

[–] Resonosity 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Actually China is leading the planet on renewables deployment.

I haven't combed through the data in a minute, but I want to also say that they're also leading in fossil fuel deployment too. Probably is due to their population size than anything else.

Don't worry though: America can't stand that China is doing better than them at something, so we're going to try to punish them and frame them as the bad guys since America can be the only one espousing leadership, not the Big Bad East.

[–] seeyouatthepartyrichter 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Deway 3 points 2 weeks ago

No. But neither are the US and I don't think they ever were. For now, I'd say the EU are the less bad of the biggest (EU, Russia, China, India, and the US) but even we aren't the good guys.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I haven't combed through the data in a minute, but I want to also say that they're also leading in fossil fuel deployment too.

Yup, China is also leading the planet on new coal plant construction. As of 2 months ago, it seemed to be on track to add 80GW of coal generation capacity in 2024 alone, and accounts for more than 90% of new coal construction.

By way of comparison, the US peaked in total coal plant capacity in 2011 at 318GW, and has since closed about 134GW of capacity, with more to come.

In context, what we're seeing is massive, massive expansion of electricity generation and transmission capacity, both clean and dirty, in China. We can expect China to increase its total carbon emissions each year to be closer to the West, while the United States reduces its own from a much higher starting point. Maybe the two countries will cross in per capita emissions around 2030 if current trends continue, but there's no guarantee that current trends will continue: will the United States continue to shift from coal to gas? Where does grid scale storage, electrification of passenger vehicles, demand shifting, or dispatchable carbon free power go from here, in a future Trump administration? What's going to happen with the Chinese economy over the next 5 years? What technology will be invented to change things?

[–] Resonosity 1 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for sharing!