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And yes, I'm also shocked and saddened that there is a Caillou fandom site.

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

All episodes of Caillou were banned in my house. That little shit taught my son how to whine.

[–] T00l_shed 19 points 3 weeks ago

My kids never got caillou but they still figured out the whining bit.

[–] yamanii 5 points 3 weeks ago

That's called being a kid.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

reading that list, they just didnt like airing normal but negative young-chlid behavior. gotta keep it sterile, dontchaknow

no taking toys, no throwing tantrums. no pointing out when your parents are exhausted.

[–] FlyingSquid 103 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I agree with what you're saying in principle, but I don't think toddlers need realistic depictions of toddlers on TV to emulate.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i thought the point of the show was to depict real world solutions to those problematic behaviors, which the show seemed to do well. it wasnt just kids being jerks and 'fini'

[–] FlyingSquid 112 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, but toddlers aren't too bright. You show Caillou throwing sand in his friend's eyes, they might copy that even if Caillou learned his lesson. Because they didn't learn Caillou's lesson.

Toddlers have a lot of difficulty putting themselves in someone else's shoes, but very little trouble copying behavior they see on TV.

I mean I didn't show my kid Caillou in the first place because he's an annoying little shit and why would I have when there's an internet full of classic Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers for her to watch? Between that and Blue's Clues, we were pretty set with stuff to keep her entertained during TV time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

i had no problem showing this kind of stuff to my 4 kids oh so long ago. i dont recall anything negative happening because of it. its definitely not, 'set them in front and walk away material'.. parents need to be present to explain stuff to the very young.

i also had the classics, but they seem to gravitate towards spongebob as their long term favorite even as they aged.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This might just come down to the kids too. My eldest would likely be like yours and pick up the lesson ,but my youngest would 1000% emulate the bad behavior, dodge the lesson, and think it was funny that he got the same consequences as the kid on tv.

[–] TexasDrunk 9 points 3 weeks ago

I would have learned the lesson then emulated the behavior anyway because I was a little shit.

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's unlikely that they got enough complaints to remove those episodes from rebroadcasts if kids weren't imitating his behavior.

[–] halcyoncmdr 6 points 3 weeks ago

Broadcasters are weak willed and the people complaining about things are usually Karens. And since Karens bitch loudly, they often get their way just so they will shut the fuck up.

Just look at some of the things the MPAA considers as essentially requirements to force things into a higher rating tier. They're basically just applying puritanical beliefs into the ratings to try and appease Karens, regardless of reality. And even those are applied wildly inconsistently.

The Kings Speech was given an R rating for language. The word Fuck is used several times in one scene ina. Medical context of speech therapy. Meanwhile, Gunner Palace, a documentary about soldiers in the Iraq War, uses the word Fuck 42 times, twice in a sexual context, and was only rated PG-13.

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[–] Death_Equity 53 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

One episode he punches a baby. That is like number 1 on the list of things you don't punch. There are the obvious examples of types of babies that are ok to punch. E.g. zombie, demon, Hitler, etc.

[–] SmokumJoe 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Punching a knife might be worse

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Medically yes. Morally, maybe not.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That depends, is this knife a baby?

[–] SmokumJoe 4 points 3 weeks ago

Or a baby threatening me with a knife

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A baby made of horribly caustic acid that is actively moving toward other babies, and all you have available to stop it is punches. Good to punch, or bad to punch? 🤔

(The baby is much faster than you. It will reach the other babies before you can. It is about to pass you, though it hasn't yet done so, and all you have time to do is to give it a quick, decisive strike to knock it off-course)

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] other_cat 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fandom engages in a lot of anti-user and anti-creator practices. There are mirrors to it that privacy and content respecting, particularly Antifandom and BreezeWiki. If you are interested in making the switch, there are plugins that will automatically redirect you away from Fandom towards one of these mirrors.

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, thank you for explaining.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 3 weeks ago

I'll concede that I am confused all the time too. Hooray for being old.

[–] paddirn 34 points 3 weeks ago

“Caillou” is what we would call out our kids for being whiny. We used him as an example of how not to act and would call our kids “Caillou” when they started getting out line. Surprisingly effective.

[–] billwashere 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Cailou is a little whiny brat and always has been. I hated that show when my son was younger.

[–] FlyingSquid 12 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

We stuck with Blue's Clues.

That said, my wife and I were convinced that Steve had severe brain damage and was living in his own inner world. When he "went off to college," he was actually being institutionalized.

You have to entertain yourself somehow with this stuff when you have to sit through it every day.

At least she wasn't into Barney or Teletubbies.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

These days at least we have streaming services. If you can get them hooked on the good stuff (eg Bluey) or the tolerable stuff (eg Octonauts) you can (mostly) get away from the worst stuff (Cocomelon and it's million somehow even more cheaply made derivatives).

[–] billwashere 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Blues Clues was good. We banned Barney from the git go. We loved Wow wow Wubsy, Wonderpets and The Backyardigans. I didn’t mind those at all.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 3 weeks ago

Ours were Blues Clues, In the Night Garden (a British show from the people who made Teletubbies, but amazingly not annoying) and classic Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers on YouTube.

I did let her watch Dora despite how awful it was. Because that was some me time. I was a stay at home dad.

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[–] finitebanjo 4 points 3 weeks ago

His mom tho.

They had to be careful how they drew her in swimwear or doing yoga, sadly.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

P.S. Caillou means pebble en français. pebblehead

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not going to question this image…

[–] Lemminary 5 points 3 weeks ago

I am. Wtf. 🤨

[–] yamanii 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean, it says that he acted like prick but always learned his lesson in the end, what's the issue?

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 3 weeks ago

Toddler brains are usually not developed enough to go, "oh! Okay! I get it now!" from a TV show.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Because a lot of kids wouldn't watch the whole episode and think the first part is how they're supposed to behave... Kids don't have a very long attention span and caillous visuals were kinda odd. I remember feeling as a kid "These edges of the screen really take me out of the immersion", or at least the kid-equivalent of that feeling.

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