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And yes, I'm also shocked and saddened that there is a Caillou fandom site.

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All episodes of Caillou were banned in my house. That little shit taught my son how to whine.

[–] T00l_shed 19 points 1 week ago

My kids never got caillou but they still figured out the whining bit.

[–] yamanii 5 points 1 week ago

That's called being a kid.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago (2 children)

reading that list, they just didnt like airing normal but negative young-chlid behavior. gotta keep it sterile, dontchaknow

no taking toys, no throwing tantrums. no pointing out when your parents are exhausted.

[–] FlyingSquid 102 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I agree with what you're saying in principle, but I don't think toddlers need realistic depictions of toddlers on TV to emulate.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i thought the point of the show was to depict real world solutions to those problematic behaviors, which the show seemed to do well. it wasnt just kids being jerks and 'fini'

[–] FlyingSquid 111 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, but toddlers aren't too bright. You show Caillou throwing sand in his friend's eyes, they might copy that even if Caillou learned his lesson. Because they didn't learn Caillou's lesson.

Toddlers have a lot of difficulty putting themselves in someone else's shoes, but very little trouble copying behavior they see on TV.

I mean I didn't show my kid Caillou in the first place because he's an annoying little shit and why would I have when there's an internet full of classic Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers for her to watch? Between that and Blue's Clues, we were pretty set with stuff to keep her entertained during TV time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

i had no problem showing this kind of stuff to my 4 kids oh so long ago. i dont recall anything negative happening because of it. its definitely not, 'set them in front and walk away material'.. parents need to be present to explain stuff to the very young.

i also had the classics, but they seem to gravitate towards spongebob as their long term favorite even as they aged.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This might just come down to the kids too. My eldest would likely be like yours and pick up the lesson ,but my youngest would 1000% emulate the bad behavior, dodge the lesson, and think it was funny that he got the same consequences as the kid on tv.

[–] TexasDrunk 9 points 1 week ago

I would have learned the lesson then emulated the behavior anyway because I was a little shit.

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it's unlikely that they got enough complaints to remove those episodes from rebroadcasts if kids weren't imitating his behavior.

[–] halcyoncmdr 6 points 1 week ago

Broadcasters are weak willed and the people complaining about things are usually Karens. And since Karens bitch loudly, they often get their way just so they will shut the fuck up.

Just look at some of the things the MPAA considers as essentially requirements to force things into a higher rating tier. They're basically just applying puritanical beliefs into the ratings to try and appease Karens, regardless of reality. And even those are applied wildly inconsistently.

The Kings Speech was given an R rating for language. The word Fuck is used several times in one scene ina. Medical context of speech therapy. Meanwhile, Gunner Palace, a documentary about soldiers in the Iraq War, uses the word Fuck 42 times, twice in a sexual context, and was only rated PG-13.

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[–] Death_Equity 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

One episode he punches a baby. That is like number 1 on the list of things you don't punch. There are the obvious examples of types of babies that are ok to punch. E.g. zombie, demon, Hitler, etc.

[–] SmokumJoe 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Punching a knife might be worse

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Medically yes. Morally, maybe not.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That depends, is this knife a baby?

[–] SmokumJoe 4 points 1 week ago

Or a baby threatening me with a knife

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A baby made of horribly caustic acid that is actively moving toward other babies, and all you have available to stop it is punches. Good to punch, or bad to punch? 🤔

(The baby is much faster than you. It will reach the other babies before you can. It is about to pass you, though it hasn't yet done so, and all you have time to do is to give it a quick, decisive strike to knock it off-course)

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Dang it, so close hahaha

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] other_cat 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fandom engages in a lot of anti-user and anti-creator practices. There are mirrors to it that privacy and content respecting, particularly Antifandom and BreezeWiki. If you are interested in making the switch, there are plugins that will automatically redirect you away from Fandom towards one of these mirrors.

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 1 week ago

Ah, thank you for explaining.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 1 week ago

I'll concede that I am confused all the time too. Hooray for being old.

[–] paddirn 34 points 1 week ago

“Caillou” is what we would call out our kids for being whiny. We used him as an example of how not to act and would call our kids “Caillou” when they started getting out line. Surprisingly effective.

[–] billwashere 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Cailou is a little whiny brat and always has been. I hated that show when my son was younger.

[–] FlyingSquid 12 points 1 week ago (7 children)

We stuck with Blue's Clues.

That said, my wife and I were convinced that Steve had severe brain damage and was living in his own inner world. When he "went off to college," he was actually being institutionalized.

You have to entertain yourself somehow with this stuff when you have to sit through it every day.

At least she wasn't into Barney or Teletubbies.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

These days at least we have streaming services. If you can get them hooked on the good stuff (eg Bluey) or the tolerable stuff (eg Octonauts) you can (mostly) get away from the worst stuff (Cocomelon and it's million somehow even more cheaply made derivatives).

[–] billwashere 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Blues Clues was good. We banned Barney from the git go. We loved Wow wow Wubsy, Wonderpets and The Backyardigans. I didn’t mind those at all.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 1 week ago

Ours were Blues Clues, In the Night Garden (a British show from the people who made Teletubbies, but amazingly not annoying) and classic Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers on YouTube.

I did let her watch Dora despite how awful it was. Because that was some me time. I was a stay at home dad.

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[–] finitebanjo 4 points 1 week ago

His mom tho.

They had to be careful how they drew her in swimwear or doing yoga, sadly.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

P.S. Caillou means pebble en français. pebblehead

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not going to question this image…

[–] Lemminary 5 points 1 week ago

I am. Wtf. 🤨

[–] yamanii 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean, it says that he acted like prick but always learned his lesson in the end, what's the issue?

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 1 week ago

Toddler brains are usually not developed enough to go, "oh! Okay! I get it now!" from a TV show.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Because a lot of kids wouldn't watch the whole episode and think the first part is how they're supposed to behave... Kids don't have a very long attention span and caillous visuals were kinda odd. I remember feeling as a kid "These edges of the screen really take me out of the immersion", or at least the kid-equivalent of that feeling.

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