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[–] ocassionallyaduck 81 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

WACUP

https://getwacup.com/

Replacing native Winamp code with modern code with frequent updates by one of the most prolific classic Winamp developers.

It's fantastic.

[–] Raiderkev 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

But does it whip the llamas ass?

[–] nucleative 4 points 2 hours ago
[–] werefreeatlast 1 points 4 hours ago

That's so interesting!

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[–] MeaanBeaan 27 points 7 hours ago

I'm surprised they kept it up for so long honestly. It was very clear they had no fucking clue what they were doing. What with the nonsensical license that violated Github's tos, the Dolby Code they leaked, and the fact they kept every commit public for everyone to see.

[–] Wispy2891 39 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Can someone explain me what's the business model of an app that's free for three decades? They claim to have 100 devs, how can they pay them?

[–] surewhynotlem 24 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They're sponsored by WinRAR. Those guys are loaded.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Real player is more of an alternative to winamp, I was surprised to see real.com. So no...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I'm thinking no.

[–] AceBonobo 14 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I'm using foobar2000. Should I be using something else?

[–] yamanii 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm an old soul so I use music bee with the Tron skin, it's very 2000s

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago

Foobar is still the best there is, although the classic style interface might not appeal to younger people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Still miss foobar which isn't on Linux, though deadbeef is fairly similar at least. Never got the hang of all the beautiful themes/skins users put together for foobar but it was still my go to music player. Excellent layout customisation, tagging and conversion UI, as well as as nice range of plugins

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

I really like deadbeef, coming from fb2k as well. Someone recommended it to me two weeks ago, and I've immediately recognized the similarities.

Foobar's Dev should have just taken their project open source imo. Although I suspect winamp's lawyers would have jumped on that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I use Audacious with the original classic winamp skin (which it supports natively).

I think QMMP also supports the winamps themes, and they both work well in Linux (which is all I run these days).

[–] [email protected] 202 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Well, that really sucks the llama's ass.

[–] mriormro 4 points 2 hours ago
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[–] [email protected] 88 points 12 hours ago (29 children)

Unsurprising given that their repo's license was a contradictory mess

Anyways I'd recommend using Strawberry instead

It's an actual Free and Open Source music player:

[–] dual_sport_dork 67 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

...That site's UI looks like someone saw the marketing literature for the Frigidaire produce preserver and said, "Yeah, that'll do."

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Lovely that it is open source, but dear lord that UI is a blast from the past 😂😂 👴👵🏚️

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's an Amarok fork, so yes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 49 minutes ago

So that's why I thought: finally a viable Amarok replacement.

Most players out there seem to be built for like 40 songs?

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[–] btaf45 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Is it still possible to get the source code? I never knew it was available.

[–] uranibaba 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

What is this "AtRiskRepos" thing? 👀

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

It's a place for software that comes from a broken home and would otherwise be hanging out on the street in high-crime areas.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I just use Audacious with a winamp skin. Looks identical but actually FOSS.

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[–] tabular 26 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

I think I tried Winamp back in the day but never really understood it.

One has to admit it's good that they released the source code (while it was available) so users can learn what their software is actually doing on their computer. Better for yourself as a dev too: you will probably avoid including other people's work in yours. However, wanting contributions while retaining the exclusive right to distribute the software is anti-collaborative. I'm reluctant to say it might as well be proprietary again but since it doesn't meet the standard of software freedom then it's equally not worth trying on my computer.

[–] dual_sport_dork 67 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

In its day Winamp was the most comprehensive media player and users were super into its skinability which was a big deal at the time. Nowadays the "plays everything" throne is very firmly occupied by VLC, with a little cushioned stool next to it for Media Player Classic to sit on. However, neither of them offer the user interface experience that Winamp does/did.

Winamp was iTunes before iTunes. It was Spotify before Spotify. It did an excellent job of managing the hordes of totally legitimate MP3's we all had back in the day, and did so with an aplomb that nothing else seemed to manage. Really, its playlist and library management was top notch. Newer apps still piss me off because none of them do it the way Winamp did.

Side note, if you have an old iPod kicking around and don't feel like dealing with Apple's ecosystem, Winamp can still, to this very day, stick music on your device natively without having to install or use iTunes. Just saying.

But this source code release thing really baffles me. I have no idea what the point of that was supposed to be.

[–] btaf45 8 points 7 hours ago

Really, its playlist and library management was top notch. Newer apps still piss me off because none of them do it the way Winamp did.

It's why I still use winamp.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It did an excellent job of managing the hordes of totally legitimate MP3’s we all had back in the day, and did so with an aplomb that nothing else seemed to manage. Really, its playlist and library management was top notch.

This is why I'm still on the eternal search for a replacement. Library management was really, really good in Winamp. I use Strawberry these days and it's absolutely great at playing stuff but the playlist management is just 'good enough'.

[–] dual_sport_dork 5 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

If you're running Windows you can still use old versions of Winamp.

On Linux, I dunno. I'll bet you it'll run in Wine.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago

I'd say that mpv also has a place near VLC when comes to playing everything.

[–] grue 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

However, wanting contributions while retaining the exclusive right to distribute the software is anti-collaborative. I’m reluctant to say it might as well be proprietary again

As you describe it, that is proprietary -- no "might as well be" qualification necessary. Just because you can read the source code doesn't make it Open Source; you've got to have all Four Freedoms for it to count.

[–] Kbobabob 2 points 4 hours ago

the users have the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software.

Is it not actually four or are they counting some of these as the same thing?

[–] woelkchen 22 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I think I tried Winamp back in the day but never really understood it.

What was there not to understand? It was a basic music player with playlist functionality, a plugin infrastructure to support playback of pirated music in underground formats like MP3, at the price of completely free and no ads (the website had banners but not the player).

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