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Amendments to the PayPal Privacy Statement Effective November 27, 2024:

We are updating our Privacy Statement to explain how, starting early Summer 2025, we will share information to help improve your shopping experience and make it more personalized for you. The key update to the Privacy Statement explains how we will share information with merchants to personalize your shopping experience and recommend our services to you. Personal information we disclose includes, for example, products, preferences, sizes, and styles we think you’ll like. Information gathered about you after the effective date of our updated Privacy Statement, November 27, 2024, will be shared with participating stores where you shop, unless you live in California, North Dakota, or Vermont. For PayPal customers in California, North Dakota, or Vermont, we’ll only share your information with those merchants if you tell us to do so. No matter where you live, you’ll always be able to exercise your right to opt out of this data sharing by updating your preference settings in your account under “Data and Privacy.”

edit: update title to reflect this is for PayPal USA users

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[–] [email protected] 136 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Just logged in, just found it, just opted out. Thanks for the heads-up OP.

But fucking fuck. Can we put a stop to this? Legally? We could call it sometime like... The National Opt-out Policy Elimination (NOPE) Act or something.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)
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[–] cheese_greater 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It should have to be opt-in ☠️

[–] TexasDrunk 13 points 2 weeks ago

Most things should be. Hell, one of Google's biggest public failures was building an opt-out social media network that let all sorts of people see who you've emailed lately.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Same... So tiring. Fighting to not be someone else's product just by existing

[–] DODOKING38 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In the app - Profile - Data & Privacy - Personalized Shopping

[–] LovableSidekick 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Not showing on my page either. I wonder if this is only happening in the app and not the website.

Profile - Data & Privacy - Personalized Shopping

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sigh.. Not showing up for me. Is this affecting all regions?

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[–] gedaliyah 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] LovableSidekick 1 points 6 days ago

Followed the link, the page I see does not have Personalized Shopping.

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[–] skeezix 65 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Imagine if you lived in a country with a banking system so modern, that nobody needed Paypal or Venmo.

[–] 9point6 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh, like the free bank transfers we've had in the UK since...... 1997..?

[–] skeezix 30 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Yes. What a lot of Americans don't realise is that in other countries, bank account numbers are standardised to include pre-defined bank and branch information. In a sense, account number includes what americans think of as routing number.

People trade bank account numbers like business cards. Businesses post their account numbers for payment. Even a flyer for a local school fundraiser will have an account number listed on it. If you buy something from someone, the seller tells you his account number. You log into your bank and transfer the funds instantly, whether it's $10 or $10000. You don't need to know anything except the recipient's account number.

It's free. It's painless. It's interconnected. It's bank agnostic. The movement of small monies between individuals should not be commoditised.

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[–] malloc 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

US has been playing catch up for decades. FedNow was implemented in 2023 to allow instant P2P payments between banks thereby eliminating the need for PayPal, Cash App, Venmo, et al.

It will take some time before we see banks make this fully available to everyone and subsequently merchants using it.

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[–] Vinny_93 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Still need PayPal for some transactions that require a credit card. In the Netherlands, credit cards aren't as commonplace as in the USA since we only pay with money we actually have.

I'm not saying I discredit your argument, I'm just angry at companies requiring either a credit card or PayPal (or even worse, those buy now pay later deals).

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's illegal in the EU.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Hence it only applies in the US.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I only skim read, but the provided link seems to me that opting out isn't an option:

However, if you would prefer to decline them, then you will need to close your PayPal account prior to the applicable effective date, as described in the user agreement.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

Well, bye PayPal

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly. That's how you opt out of this shitty practice.

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[–] TriflingToad 37 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Thanks for the heads up 👍

Here's the direct link to disabling it but I assume Capcha or login will probably get in the way: https://www.paypal.com/myaccount/privacy/settings/recommendations

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
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[–] CrayonRosary 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

In the Android app, open your profile, tap Data and Privacy, then Personalized Shopping, then toggle it off.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Misleading. This only applies to the US.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Was gonna say... The EU would have been up their arses with a cactus for that.

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[–] nothingcorporate 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Sigh, yet another enshittified service to cancel.

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[–] credo 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Lol, paypal now has an option to store your SSN and passport info. What a scam.

Account deleted.

https://www.paypal.com/myaccount/privacy/ -> Delete your data / close account

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Oof. Thanks. I deleted mine as well. Never really use it anyway because I was always afraid of what they might do with my money.

[–] Coach 18 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you. Just closed my account. Didn't need it anyway and I sure as fuck don't need to be generating income for PayPal anymore.

[–] Nonononoki 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Tugboater203 12 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for the heads up, I would have missed that.

[–] Asidonhopo 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Venmo is owned by PayPal, but I couldn't find any information about if similar Venmo TOS changes are planned or already in effect.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

At least 3 states have common sense laws to auto opt-out. I think every state should have these privacy laws, even if those 3 are minimal at best.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Anyone know if this applies to Canada too? I looked but couldn't find it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

US:

https://www.paypal.com/us/legalhub/privacy-full

Last updated on March 28, 2024

Canada:

https://www.paypal.com/ca/legalhub/privacy-full

Last updated on July 24, 2023

So I'd guess not.

But you might just want to keep an eye on that, because just because they haven't changed it today doesn't mean that they won't later. Like, if their people are thinking that this is a good idea to make money in the US, they might also think that it'd be useful in Canada. Don't know if Canada has any restrictions on such a change.

[–] malloc 8 points 2 weeks ago

Page mentions “Notice of Amendment(s) to the United States PayPal Agreement(s)”. So it’s likely US only (for now).

If you don’t see the “Data and Privacy” option to opt out on their website or app. Then it’s likely they are not sharing your data, yet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

good thing i canceled my paypal account years ago and specificially told them to delete all information about me, not that i have much trust they obey the law if they can get away with it

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