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The Republican war on colleges (www.axios.com)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/politics
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Former President Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, the two GOP presidential frontrunners, have both promised a crackdown on colleges should they occupy the White House — a stark reflection of the right's growing skepticism of higher education.

Some Republican complaints about colleges are related to broader concern about "wokeness" and free speech. But others hint at deeper questions about the value of college, and how to ensure a degree comes with an appropriate economic return.

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[–] TechyDad 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They see colleges as "liberal wokeness indoctrination centers" because their kids go to college and return more liberal. In a way, they're right, but it's not because colleges are actively indoctrinating students.

When you grow up in a town, you're likely to be surrounded by people like you. They all look like you and think like you. People who look and think different are "strange others" and stereotypes about these people abound.

Then, you go to college. Suddenly, you're surrounded by people who look different and think differently. That stereotype you have about Group A? Well, you've now met 5 people who are in Group A and none of them fit the stereotype. Your biases get shattered and you start to see people as actual people instead of "strange others."

Then you go back home. Nobody back home has met all the people you met. They still use the old stereotypes that you've discarded. To them, you've changed. They're right, but it's because your experiences have shaped how you see the world not because someone strapped you to a chair and forced "wokeness" into you.

[–] just_another_person 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty much. I'd even go a step further and say the classic right-winger finds pretty much all types of education as an enemy now for potentially informing their kids that the BS they've been thought at home may not be accurate or based in fact. All of these right-wing groups trying to get books banned, teachers fired, and school curriculum changed pretty much spells it out.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of hardcore right-wingers are also homeschooling their kids these days.

[–] cmbabul 11 points 1 year ago

It’s not even ‘these days’ hardcore right wingers have done this since I was in school in the 90s. It’s just that more right wingers have become more hardcore than before.

[–] JTode 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had the benefit of a better environment growing up, but when I was at Uni, I cannot say how many people told me this story, particularly about gay folks.

[–] Mirshe 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I had a buddy who basically could not believe that black people weren't all savages out to rape and murder. Dude was raised in the backwoods of Georgia and probably never actually met a black person face to face in his whole life.

[–] reddig33 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can’t have an educated populace. They might vote. Or worse — they might want better jobs and a living wage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Get them yound and keep them dumb shocking to no one republican and most religion have the same game plan.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not just Higher Education. Republicans are at war with gradeschool education as well. They know full well that ignorant people are more easily manipulated.

[–] ohlaph 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They want dumb uninformed slave labor.

[–] Matt_Shatt 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The shortsightedness is mind blowing. What happens in a generation when the US can’t produce enough scientists and engineers? We have to bring in smart people from other countries. And they won’t like that either. It’s astonishing.

[–] Mirshe 3 points 1 year ago

Because THE SENATOR'S kids will be the engineers and scientists. They have the money to be sent to very nice upscale private schools where they learn all that stuff. You, in the other hand, do not, nor do you need all that fancy learning about physics and chemistry and history. All you need to know is how to DO YOUR JOB.

Basically, large parts of the GOP are actually trying to reinvent the aristocracy.

[–] Empyreus 20 points 1 year ago

Have to fight higher education, because they won't be able to control their base as easy

[–] pwnieb0y 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Didn't they both go to Ivy League schools? Just sayin'.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Dammit I taught higher education was a great thing but now I'm not so sure.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Education for me and not for thee. Same shit, different pot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Only the war on state and community colleges. Not ivy league rich universities like Harvard, Yale and Stanford where the majority of Republican donors matriculated.

[–] Skanky 7 points 1 year ago

Republicans against education? Tale as old as time...

[–] BombOmOm -2 points 1 year ago

Quite a number of people would be much better focusing on the trades. Many trades pay quite well and have a shortage of manpower. Colleges are too expensive for what you get.

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