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Elon Musk merging Twitter into X didn't absolve X from child safety fine.

Elon Musk's X (formerly Twitter) remains on the hook for an approximately $400,000 fine after failing to respond to an Australia eSafety Commission 2023 inquiry, which largely sought to probe measures X is currently taking to combat an alleged proliferation of child sexual abuse material (CSAM) on its platform.

To void the fine, X tried to persuade Australian Judge Michael Wheelahan that X had no obligation to comply with an Online Safety Act notice issued to Twitter because Twitter "ceased to exist" a few weeks after receiving the notice—when Musk merged the app into his company X Corp.

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[–] MegaUltraChicken 133 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would 100x the fucking fine just for trying that argument if I was the judge.

[–] disguy_ovahea 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m not sure about Australia’s laws, but in the US, that could result in recusal of the judge on the grounds of bias.

[–] affiliate 47 points 2 months ago (1 children)

that's not really a problem if the judge simply changes their name

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

"I'm Judge jaXon now!"

[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Guys, I found how you can get rid of all your debt.

[–] obinice 62 points 2 months ago

Thing is, that's exactly how you do it as a capitalist.

Compartmentalise your businesses and ensure they're registered so as to never come after your personal assets should they go bust.

Then, if the business fails and goes bust, shut it down, sack everyone, and a week later reopen in the same place with a slightly different name and rehire most of the same staff under the new company.

The new company is not in any way legally connected to the old one, and the one one's debts are to be handled whatever administration firm took all that over, etc.

I've seen it happen first hand here in the UK, good example of why capitalists are scumbags that are above our laws.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This reads like a sovcit defense.

Wheelahan summarized X's argument as saying that "X Corp was not obliged to prepare any report in Twitter Inc’s place, as X Corp was not the same person as the provider to whom the notice was issued."

Anyway, start charging interest. A lot. Backdated to October of last year.

[–] Zahille7 24 points 2 months ago

"same person" eugh

[–] Cadeillac 11 points 2 months ago

I expect no less from this child

[–] someguy3 56 points 2 months ago

It's like the game you play with a baby where you put your hands over your face to hide.

[–] Blue_Morpho 51 points 2 months ago

I wish companies and people were held to the standards of their own arguments.

For example because X claimed they don't owe anything because they changed their name from Twitter, any business dealing with X would legally be allowed to use the same argument.

[–] WoahWoah 36 points 2 months ago

The fine was not written in red ink diagonally across the postage stamp. No countsy.

-Elon Musk

[–] blackjam_alex 30 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wait Elon Musk is using the soviet strategy

I thought he disliked the "woke communists"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] TheBat 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Omw to max out credit cards and then change my name

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago
[–] aeronmelon 21 points 2 months ago

Anthony Mackie as falcon in Falcon and the Winter Soldier begrudgingly agreeing with something someone he hates said by saying, "He's out of line, but he's right."

I hope the judge chuckles for a moment then triples what he owes.

[–] pyre 20 points 2 months ago

lol he really went for the sovcit strats. fucking idiot.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He's still going to deadname his daughter

[–] elliot_crane 14 points 2 months ago

Came here to say this. Dude routinely misgenders and deadnames his daughter and claims that she died from “the woke mind virus”, then he turns around and tries to pull this shit.

[–] FlyingSquid 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure why the famed Family Circus defense didn't work...

[–] Buffalox 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I don't get it? I searched defense on that page and got nothing.
Is it about being absurd?

[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Were you really under the impression that I was serious about it being a famed legal defense? Read the "Gremlins" section I linked to.

[–] Buffalox 3 points 2 months ago

No I absolutely expected it to be sarcasm.
I read the part, and that's quite funny and fitting.

[–] Breezy 14 points 2 months ago

So i committed a crime, i didn't know if i change my name i could get out of it

[–] affiliate 13 points 2 months ago

does this mean the twitter brand is up for grabs? anyone can start up a new website at twitter dot com? musk's letting go of it completely?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Had to double take to confirm it didn't say they argued Australia doesn't exist

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Close. It's New Zealand that doesn't exist. I checked the map.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

That fucking thumbnail photo 🤣

That's ripe meme material.

[–] NABDad 5 points 2 months ago

I'm thinking Musk may be in a "Brewster's Millions" situation, in which he needs to spend every penny he has and end up with absolutely no assets in order to win an even larger fortune.

If we're really, really lucky, someone scammed him to think that he'd win a fortune, and after he's lost everything he'll discover there's no fortune.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

You still have the bowl, Milhouse.