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The guy who used Midjourney to create an award-winning piece of AI art demands copyright protections.

Excuse me while I go grab my popcorn.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

This is actually the art bit, right? He’s doing conceptual art, like that Banksy that shredded itself upon sale.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

[Nelson Laugh]

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm in the same boat. Every time someone reads one of my comments and doesn't pay me for it, that's money out of my pocket. It's a hard life being an internet commenter these days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 32 minutes ago

You are now reading mine.

Is this a valid 1:1 exchange? Or are you willing to pay me extra for my response?

[–] Mango 7 points 5 hours ago

LMAO!!!!

Next.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago

If he is considered "Artist" I am too.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

First off, stop calling him an AI artist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Calling someone a prompt "engineer" should be punishable by law.

[–] Mango 5 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, he is neither is those words. I wouldn't even say the 'I' applies.

[–] NateNate60 5 points 8 hours ago

But...

The AI is the artist!

Not sure what this other guy is doing though.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 hours ago

You can make art using AI. I've seen artists use it to clean up line art, color, shade, fill in backgrounds, and more. AI is just a tool. Lots of people only use text prompts, which I agree is hardly controlling, but that is only a single way to interact with AI. You can do a lot with these models.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

One of the reasons I like AI art is that it's pretty settled law that something produced by purely "mechanical" means can't itself have copyright, since copyright requires both originality and a human author.

It seems like a reasonably compromise, the AI was created by hoovering up the commons, so anything it creates should belong to the commons. I expect a lot of lobbying in the future to try and change it though.

[–] SlopppyEngineer 15 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

And if AI work would be copyrighted by the "prompt artist" then all the artists whose work is in the training set can sue the prompter for profiting of their work without licensing fees. It would be a legal clusterfuck so it was pretty wise to side step the whole issue.

[–] AFreeLarryHoover 33 points 9 hours ago
[–] TommySoda 19 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

"Famous AI 'Prompter' Says He's Losing Millions of Dollars From People Stealing His Stolen Work."

Seems like you did this to yourself, bud. You're just mad you didn't get paid enough for stealing.

[–] Repelle 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

“Famous” is accurate, but change to “Infamous” and it’s perfect.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

He sure to become "infamous" now.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Oh no, the consequences of your own actions! That art competition should just add a rule "only copyrightable works"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently, the competition was a year before that ruling.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

And he's still crying about it?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago

How much did the real artists lose out on in order to train the AI?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

How is he losing millions of dollars? If you're just trying to get into the art fraud money laundering scheme thing then make an NFT and find an idiot. But just the creation of a piece (be it traditional, digital, or "ai") doesn't entitle you to a payout. And if you're just complaining about the dissemination of the piece you asked someone else's computer to generate for you without a kick back link tax, well--that's not how copyright, the internet, or normal human correspondence works.

[–] SlopppyEngineer 16 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Ah, good ol' music industry math. "1,000 people downloaded a picture that I created, and I wanted to charge $1,000 a piece, so I lost $1,000,000." In reality of course charging $0.02 would've stopped most sales.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, articles are including the image because they can. If a judge had instead ruled that AI generated works were copyrightable (and to the prompter, not the designer of the tool, owner of the hardware, or even the tool itself) the end result would be that very few orgs would include his piece instead just opting for generating their own (now copyrightable) image to use as an example. He'd still get nothing, but then significantly fewer people would see his "work."

[–] SacredHeartAttack 12 points 9 hours ago

lol get fucked loser. (the "artist", not OP)

[–] blackjam_alex 6 points 8 hours ago

He's losing imaginary, A.I generated money.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 hours ago

Lol, lmao even

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I'm collecting all his tears to cook a big pot of pasta. Not sure how anyone would make "millions of dollars" from a single artwork anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

its probably fictionally calculated like sales are to piracy. just because someone pirated a game/software doesnt mean they would have bought said thing at asking price had the piracy option not existed.

[–] Valmond 3 points 6 hours ago

Be an 1880 impressionnist, paint an artwork, die.

Now it's worth a million, possibly.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds 3 points 9 hours ago

This is the schadenfreude I needed to get through my day

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

He is not being the neighborly neighbor Mr Rogers wanted him to be.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

Oh I sure hope he sets a bad legal precedent for AI "art".

[–] Nuke_the_whales -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I make props, armour, movie replicas as a hobby. I do it all by hand.

I get a bit of an eyeball twitch when someone shows me a prop and goes "I made this too" "of yeah, what did you use as a base material?" "Oh it's 3d printed" "oh so your printer made it..."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

id consider them making it if they were also the one who designed the 3d object without taking someone elses work. if they just downloaded a model, made minor changes than print it, I would not consider it their work.