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In her first interview as the Democratic presidential nominee, Vice President Kamala Harris told CNN it was imperative to reach a ceasefire deal in Gaza, but made it clear that she would not alter President Joe Biden’s policy in the region.

However, when pressed on whether she would stop sending weapons to Israel she told Bash, “No, we have to get a deal done, Dana. We have to get a deal done.”

“Adopting an arms embargo against Israel’s assault on Gaza is not only a moral imperative but also a strategic move to defeat Trump and MAGA extremism. It is difficult for the Democratic candidate to champion democracy while arming Netanyahu’s authoritarian regime” reads a recent letter to Harris from the coalition Not Another Bomb.

Recent polling has repeatedly demonstrated that Democratic voters overwhelmingly support the conditioning of U.S. military aid. A Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR) survey from March found that 52% of Americans want the U.S. to halt weapons shipments to Israel in order to force a ceasefire. 62% of Biden voters said “The US should stop weapons shipments to Israel until Israel discontinues its attacks on the people of Gaza,” while only 14% disagreed with the statement.

The numbers from a June CBS News poll were even higher, with more than 60% of all voters and almost 80% of Democrats saying the U.S. shouldn’t send Israel weapons.

“The real question should have been, ‘When are you going to start enforcing U.S. law as it relates to arms shipments’ because what we are doing right now, with this United States policy, is in violation of not just international law, but also of American law, “said the Arab Center’s Yousef Munayyer in an interview with Democracy Now in response to the CNN segment. “Vice-President Harris made it clear in other parts of her interview that she wants to be a prosecutor. She wants to enforce the law, but Israel is clearly getting an exception from the Harris campaign.”

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[–] assassinatedbyCIA 138 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Democrats will do anything to lose an election

[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Never underestimate a Democrat's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Fucking Everton of politics

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 3 months ago (8 children)

80% of her base wants to stop sending weapons to Israel. Where the fuck is democracy?

[–] jaggedrobotpubes 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

80% in terms of people, but not 80% in terms of money.

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[–] riodoro1 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In history books. This is oligarchy.

[–] TropicalDingdong 14 points 3 months ago

Blue MAGA thinks they hold the reins

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[–] WraithGear 69 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Whelp, there goes that hope. Back to being angry.

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[–] Sterile_Technique 60 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Harris says she won’t stop arming Israel

If she wants Trump to win, just say that.

Jfc.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (9 children)

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Why?

Seriously! Why!?

I don't remotely understand this policy, and it seems that pretty much noone would vote for it if they could avoid doing so.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Because our government's support of Israel furthers US financial interests in the Middle East.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago

We gotta make AIPAC happy or else they might stop paying for Pelosi's yacht.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago

Israel is the country equivalent of the US sending an aircraft carrier outside a country it has tenuous relations with yet wants favorable trade. It's how they cement the Petro-Dollar as the global currency and dominate financial capital.

Ceasing support for Israel risks hurting US profits, so the US has a monetary interest in propping up the genocidal campaign while pretending to push for a ceasefire to appease domestic tensions, however poorly.

[–] CluckN 12 points 3 months ago

Her husband also made a pledge to, “fight antisemitism” when asked about Israel’s crimes.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (3 children)

How hard is it to field a presidential candidate that is not a senior citizen and who doesn't wish to remain allies with countries engaged in genocide?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The problem is that the countries engaged in genocide allow the US a foothold in the middle East, so they can basically get away with anything. Losing that means throwing away all the military and strategic advantage in that region.

Tl;dr you may as well wish for a president that wants to demilitarize the US

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

unsurprising. good luck in November, I guess 👍

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[–] Bertuccio 42 points 3 months ago

I didn't expect this at all and am deeply hurt.

I really thought the handpicked second most powerful person in the country would differ significantly in policies from the people who handpicked her.

[–] TommySoda 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

As much as I hate to admit this, I don't think this will change my opinion on her. Don't get me wrong, I think it's incredibly fucked up that they continue to give them the weapons they use to murder civilians. But I also know that pretty much every president that has been elected since Israel has existed as a country would do exactly the same. The vast majority of politicians are spineless when it comes to Israel and always will be, regardless of party affiliation. No matter who gets elected it will always be the same answer with varying degrees of severity. And even if Harris wanted to do something about it, do you really think she would say anything new until she knew for a fact she was going to win? She'd get ostracized by the majority of her own party and potentially lose a bunch of those fancy endorsements she just received.

I'm not saying it's right. In fact, it's so fucked up it makes my blood boil. I'm just saying that politicians are fucking cowards and always will be.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (12 children)

But I also know that pretty much every president that has been elected since Israel has existed as a country would do exactly the same.

Your knowledge is incorrect. Please seek out better sources.

Reagan said Israel is carrying out a holocaust, and stopped them with a single phonecall. Bush Sr. stopped them by threatening arms embargo as well. Eisenhower and Ford couldn't stomach their bloodlust either and called them off.

Israel is a client state of the US, it's best to think of it as the 51st state. They do what they're told.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Imagine being worse than Reagan 💀

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[–] MataVatnik 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

That's what people forget, all it takes is one phone call from a US Pres. Israel is nobody.

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[–] distantsounds 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not enough genocide yet apparently. Fuck this

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Clearly the most efficient way to stop this genocide is to wait until all the Palestinians have been murdered. Then no more can be murdered. Thus no more genocide. Obviously you just don't understand the complexities of the situation. It's the only way to ensure the genocide stops!

I fucking hate myself for knowing that I'll be voting for her. Jesus

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[–] Resonosity 27 points 3 months ago

And it'll be one of her worst decisions of this campaign

[–] riodoro1 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Quick! show them more of Walz, they like him!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Joe Biden is a mass murderer. We will never forget, never forgive.

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[–] pocopene 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As a European citizen: is it really a possibility for any US president not to do so? (Honest question, since from Europe US's policy is seen as supporting Israel no matter what)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Other presidents were able to restrain Israel from trying to enact a "final solution"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

God they’re so stupid.

Israel will not stop until we take away their ability to continue.

When this war ends, Netanyahu will be removed from power for his prior crimes and likely jailed. He doesn’t want that and he’s murdering Palestinians to be sure he never sees the inside of a cell.

I wish we had an actual viable option for ending this war. But my choices right now are vote for the genocide or flee the country because Trump has promised he will make my wife’s life hell day one.

[–] AbouBenAdhem 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

I have little hope that Biden, Harris, or (obviously) Trump will actually change course on the US’s Israel/Palestine policy—but to be fair, we shouldn’t expect the current vice president to openly say she would reverse the current president’s foreign policies even if she intended to.

[–] Ensign_Crab 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why not? She's not the Secretary of State and she's not setting foreign policy like Dick Cheney.

Why must she adhere to Biden's policies?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

No I would actually expect a candidate to talk about what they intend, and whatever excuse there's not to sounds silly.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The AIPAC queen can't get enough of headless toddlers and rape squads

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