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The transphobia stops now (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you're here it's because you're aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not "just asking questions".

If your response to that is, "yes, but..." then this isn't the instance for you, and by extension, this isn't the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

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Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to "unambiguous support", as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

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[–] [email protected] 299 points 11 months ago (11 children)
[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago

WHATS THAT SORRY I CANT HEAR YOU IM CRANKING THE HOG RIGHT NOW TRANSPHOBES GTFO (DISRESPECTFULLY) 🏳️‍⚧️

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[–] UnculturedSwine 227 points 11 months ago

This is what the fediverse was created for. Casual transphobia doesn't need to be permitted and I fully support that.

[–] rustyfish 179 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Every single transphobe right now:

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)
[–] Dee 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

~~Can you see my reply? I'm on lemmy.world and I thought it was still defederated from Beehaw so I shouldn't be able to see your comment O_o~~ (I'm used to being more active on my beehaw account so using my lemmy.world account threw me off, disregard this lol)

P.S. Yay trans rights and having a pro-trans meme space 😄

[–] Mozingo 52 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

Being defederated just means you can't see new posts on beehaw communities and they can't see your communities at all. If your instance and beehaw are both federated with a third instance, like the one this community is on, then you'll still be able to see comments by beehaw users on that instance.

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[–] expected_crayon 126 points 11 months ago

Thank god. Reddit and Twitter were ruined by the transphobic and Nazis. Glad that isn’t tolerated here.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thank you so much. We need that more than anything right now — where transphobic content tends to be the default on the web.

If this is the time to go full aggressive for our rights, count me in!

(And if you’re here to passive-aggressively complain about how you « don’t care about people’s sexuality » and making everyone notice you’re leaving — let me be very active-aggressive in saying « good fucking riddance » to you.)

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Not gay as in happy, but queer as in fuck you!"

TRANS RIGHTS blobhaj, flag, trans, transgender

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 11 months ago (8 children)

There was transphobia in 196? HOW?

[–] [email protected] 55 points 11 months ago (13 children)

One of the mods made a post about how this comment being really creepy about trans men's bodies somehow wasn't transphobic and then deleted it after people started calling them out lol

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (12 children)

Most people seem to agree it wasn't transphobia, but here's the context: https://lemmy.world/post/1893561

There was some transphobia that came crawling out like usually happens when a trans topic starts getting active, but they got shut down pretty quickly

[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago (6 children)

There was some transphobia that came crawling out like usually happens when a trans topic starts getting active

That is what prompted this post. It happens every single time trans stuff comes up. There is no space for it here.

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[–] toadstorm 87 points 11 months ago (1 children)

i am old and cis but trans shitposters are the best shitposters, this is indisputable. you have my support

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 11 months ago (3 children)

100% based; Was already worried where this community was headed

BLÅHAJ Lemmy W

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Damn ~~straight~~ queer.

I'm just your run-of-the-mill white cismale dude, but I know several trans people in real life including an old friend of mine and a 7-year-old kid across the street from me. Everyone deserves respect and dignity of life.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 11 months ago

Hello, Based Department, we've got another Based Community here.

Trans rights are human rights!

[–] RavenFellBlade 65 points 11 months ago

Trans rights are women's rights.

Trans rights are men's rights.

Trans rights are human rights.

If you believe otherwise, you're doing nothing less than questioning the basic humanity of Trans people. And you can fuck right off.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sad to hear that's been happening on Blahaj. Full and unambiguous support from me! 🐝

[–] [email protected] 59 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It hasn't been happening on Blahaj as such. The transphobes come from other instances, but have been posting their BS here

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm mostly just a lurker in this community but here I go: Trans rights are human rights 👍

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Making all the transphobes come out of the woodwork to get banned with this one~ Appreciate everyone's unambiguous support <3

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[–] xpinchx 54 points 11 months ago

🏳️‍🌈fuck your hate🏳️‍🌈

[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't subscribe to this community but I found your post in the top of my feed. And want people to know, you have my support. I think it's awesome that you're able to build this community.

I'm not going to be aggressive in any online discussion but I am very sensitive to the situation. My brother was a gay man who had lots of difficulties and ultimately took his own life. I will always wonder if society was different, if he'd still be here.

So I will never shy away in real life. I promised the memories of my brother to always be that change that is needed. I will be that cis dude who takes the time to try and change people who show me their bigotry.

I know people in real life who have transitioned. It's a very difficult process and anyone who feels that they need it, they should have access to it. The look of being comfortable in one's own skin afterwards is absolutely observable. I can only do what I can do but you will always have an ally in me.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (4 children)

WHAT THE FUCK (RESPECTFULLY) FUCK UNAMBIGUOUS SUPPORT AGGRESSIVE SUPPORT TILL THE DAY I DIE MOTHERFUCK*R 🏳️‍⚧️

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Trans women are women. Girldick is best dick.

Know that you are loved. ^And also sexually objectified. Sorry bout that... ^

-Sincerely a cis lesbian.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for this, honestly it was worrying how many upvotes some transphobic replies were getting.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trans people are regular, real people. Like my college friend. Or my wife's HS friend. Or that one kind soul I worked with once.

I'm so god damn sick of all the hatred and lies and bullshit and murder and sadistic laws against trans people.

I loudly applaud any space that actively supports trans people and gives them a place free from hatred and assholes.

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[–] kep 43 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Trans people are cool. Love em. Full human rights for everyone, end discrimination. This post, though, is obnoxious though.

Sending edicts out to the public is never the play. Use your sidebar. Moderate stuff. Make it cool to not be a bigot. But the second you start doing goofy shit like this, you're painting a target on your back and coming across way more fragile than you must actually be.

I personally have a policy about blocking any community that has admins who feel it necessary to try to police people's thoughts. As much as bigots piss me off, this isn't how people conduct themselves in a place that purports to be a safe haven. You don't patronize and denigrate the general public out of frustration, unless you want them as an enemy for some reason. The idea you needed you adjust your terminology in retrospect confirms how poorly you wrote your initial message.

Also, I have to say, "We allowed 196 to be here" is a curious statement. What exactly did you allow? Is opening a community a big endeavor? I've opened up a bunch, and never have I felt like I was owed someone for doing it.

Ban bad behavior. Don't try to tell people how to think. We have a word for the latter and it's not pretty.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They're not telling anyone "how to think". They're telling transphobes and "trans sceptics" to fuck off. And who cares if they do it with a pinned post rather than a sidebar announcement? Some apps hide the sidebar in a menu.

Also when you say you opened a bunch of communities, do you mean you hosted them? Because those two women are literally running the server this instance is running on. Doesn't sound all that easy to me.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 11 months ago

So block this instance? I'm not sure why you feel the need to post about it.

Also I have a bone to pick about the 'telling people how to think is wrong. We have a word for the latter and it's not pretty'. Firstly that's pretty polemic for no good reason. Assuming you're dancing round the word fascist, it seems pretty unpleasant and unnecessary to allude to the group that committed genocide of queer people and deliberately destroyed research into trans issues to set it back decades.

Now onto the substance of the claim -- that telling people how to think is fascist. This is completely absurd, the key difference being that fascists don't just 'tell people how to think'; they brutally enforce it with violence.

This post and the trans women making it are not about to use the full force of the state to prevent people thinking about transphobia. What they are doing is posting that, to take part in the community that they are investing money to host, you must unambiguously support trans rights.

The comparison you have implied is completely and utterly absurd, and the dramatic language and comparisons you have used to make it is cringe.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Moderate stuff. Make it cool to not be a bigot. But the second you start doing goofy shit like this, you're painting a target on your back and coming across way more fragile than you must actually be.

Super hot garbage take. It's not trans people's job to make it "appealing" to you to not be a bigot, you should not be a bigot because you don't want to be a steaming pile of human garbage. You should be able come to the conclusion that ANY discrimination is stupid by yourself.

It's also not trans people's jobs to make supporting them fun for you - they just want to live their lives like anyone else here does. And it's well within their right to call out discriminatory bullshittery when they see it.

Plus, they are literally running this instance. This community wouldn't exist (in this form) if their instance were not up and running. If they're strictly against transphobia, which really isn't a hot take but basic human rights, then it's their perogative to enforce that as they see fit. Making this post and calling it out is exactly what any mod team on Rexxit ever did. How's this any different from that?

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[–] MBM 48 points 11 months ago

we allowed 196 to be here

These aren't mods talking, it's admins. They manage and pay for the server 196 is hosted on, that's a pretty big endeavor

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Thank you! I followed 196 over here from Reddit when it moved and I appreciate you reaffirming its principles. I think the move to Lemmy paradoxically gave 196 more visibility to people who don't necessarily agree with those principles because its posts wind up so prominent on All, especially in smaller instances. It's kind of hilarious how many posts I've seen asking why people on Lemmy say "rule" all the time 😂

Edit: in closing, fuck transphobes

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck, transphobia on 196?

Trans rights 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm glad yall posted this but I'm bummed it's no longer "aggressive." Anybody who pretends that the wording of "aggressive support" is concerning is probably afraid of triggering that aggression themselves... and they should be.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

People were thinking that aggressive meant that they had to be explicitly active in trans spaces and talking about trans stuff. What I wanted to convey is that someone doesn't have to talk about trans stuff to post here, but if they do talk about trans stuff, it needs to be unambiguously supportive.

I however remain aggressively supportive, and will continue to ban bigots, reply guys and "just asking question" dog whistlers as soon as they appear :)

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago

Will spend the next days reporting transphobes if necessary <3 best wishes from Germany

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago

As an Asexual Gender-Fluid person with trans friends, I fully support this

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