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[–] III 315 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Vote every time. Polls mean nothing. Vote.

[–] kescusay 76 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yep. Polls are getting less reliable anyway, because so many of them rely on landlines, and some segments of the population are less likely to respond to surveys than others.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Which is telling, because the land line polls tend to over inflate Conservative voices, and it still has Trump losing in a landslide.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Overinflating conservatism in the US is par for the course. See: the three-fifths compromise and the electoral college.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Also, national polls mean nothing. We don't have a national election.

Trump lost in 2016 by 2.1%, he became President by winning in WI, MI and PA. 2 states Clinton failed to campaign in and a 3rd she alienated.

The total number of votes that elected Trump were just 22,748 in WI, 10,704 in MI and 44,292 in PA.

77,744 people made Trump a President. The rest of us knew better.

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[–] theyresocool 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (28 children)

Literally nobody wants conservative garbage in office. The party of liars and frauds always defanging enforcement of laws and regulations and everyone knows because we have been talking about it since that Liar War George WMD Bush and housing crash that he did.

Every chance we had at reigning in the psychopathic elites was thwarted by the Conservatives ONLY.

The white dudes sold half of my generation to a liar war and the other half to crippling debt. So we voted in a black man and they revolted by selling out to foreign enemies to steal an election because they got caught stealing 2000 with the Brooks Brothers Riot.

The party of garbage is being taken out and the midterms show it. Polls are garbage and we don’t answer them because we want them to look like assholes like we did during the mid terms AND 2024.

What’s their plan? Ruin our lines of communication from now until 2024 by buying and destroying media in a way that looks like incompetence.

They might go and get crazy and attack the country again OR start pretending they’re Democrats - they already do.

Look at Ron ShitSandwich. Total incompetent shit bag. And he’s only 44. Plenty of time to get worse.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

remember that the trump campaign spent money convincing people to stay home in 2016. their two messages were "clinton's got this in the bag, your vote doesn't matter" and "trump and clinton are basically the same anyway". vote early and vote often, nothing is sure until after the post-election terrorism has died down.

[–] Lenins2ndCat 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally no polls matter outside of election season, people lie to them, often for protest or primary reasons. Plenty of fascists want desantis because he's a much bigger monster.

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[–] MossBear 38 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Percentages are not electoral college votes and that's what matters (even though it shouldn't). No complacency on this!

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

These polls are fun and all, but I don't trust them, especially a over a year out. Things can change drastically.

[–] Buddahriffic 19 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't be surprised if it's the right pushing these poll reports to galvanize their own voters and make their opponents think they can relax.

When it comes to power, I don't think it's ever safe to relax.

[–] Hextic 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember 2016. All polls are bullshit. Assume the worst and vote in anticipation of the worst case scenario.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mistrust polls. Is this a legitimate poll or is this propaganda aimed at Biden voters? The message is that you don't have to bother voting because your choice is leading the poll. Vote anyway.

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[–] Dive 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

this poll queried 900 voters. 900 people who are the type of people to respond to political polls

for reference, almost 155 million people voted in 2020

so this poll was conducted with less than 0.0006% of the voting population of 2020, and the group that responded is a particular (and biased) group. edit: for additional reference, biden received 7 million more votes than trump did in 2020, which is roughly 7,800 times more voters than were polled for this article.

ignore this completely

go fucking vote

in fact tell the next 10 people you talk to to vote as well

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still gonna be at the booth voting.

Work and stupid polls like this won't keep me way.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is why Republicans know they have to steal the election any way they can. Polling places with reduced hours, stricter requirements for mail ballots, voter ID laws, not letting people provide water to voters waiting in line, invalidating voter registrations, etc. They want to make voting as difficult as possible.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

y'all don't even make voting day a day off, literally everything America does it to stop people voting, not a democracy at all

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[–] DannyMac 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Umm, 2016 showed us how reliable polls can be

[–] Corvid 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People look at the big picture in polls(X candidate is leading in polls) and then say they're wrong when Y candidate wins, but it's way more nuanced than that.

The 2016 polls were not that far off. Hillary won the popular vote, as the polls predicted. The key states she lost, she lost by small margins within, or not too far from, the margin of error.

If you look at FiveThirtyEight's final prediction for 2016, Trump had a 28.6% chance of winning. That's between a 1 in 3 and 1 in 4 chance! But the media narrative was that Trump had 0 chance, and what happened happened.

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[–] VariousWorldViews 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Eat poop, Trump.

EDIT: I want to clarify that I do not condone cannibalism.

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[–] randon31415 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Joe Manchin? Who looks at the gridlock in D.C. and says: "Yes, I want more of that." Ask me when someone who didn't vote against Roe v Wade decides to declare.

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[–] floral_toxicity 20 points 1 year ago

VOTE VOTE VOTE

[–] QubaXR 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

While I'm happy to hear it, any political article calling something brutal or savage or claiming one destroys another is clearly a piece of clickbait garbage.

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[–] WhiteOakBayou 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I love that the article casually includes at the end Senator Kennedy (R) La saying that Biden is getting the justice department to go after Trump to make Trump more popular and win the primary because Biden believes Trump is the only one he could beat. Just wow.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Senator Kennedy is off his rocker

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

The part of these polls that none of these publications talk about is that 40% of voters still support this shitbag, a liar, grifter, and traitor to this country.

The GOP saw the nonreaction to an open attempt of sedition and they have not forgotten it.

[–] BilboBargains 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should have an old guy scrap like in family guy with Herbert and the Nazi

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[–] RandomlyAssigned 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Is this the same poll that predicted a Hillary win?

[–] LeadSoldier 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Almost every poll at the time showed that everyone could beat Trump except for Hillary. The DNC is as responsible for the Trump presidency as the RNC.

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[–] SCB 15 points 1 year ago

How is this myth still not dead lol

[–] bodiesofeverest 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most probabilities gave Trump like a 25% chance to win. 1/4 is a very real chance.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you think Trump will stay in if poll after poll continues to show him losing?

I get that he NEEDS to win if he wants to avoid prison, but can his fragile ego take losing again? He couldn't handle losing the popular vote in 2016 and he WON that election. 2020 showed how internalized he takes being a two time loser.

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