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Literally nobody wants conservative garbage in office. The party of liars and frauds always defanging enforcement of laws and regulations and everyone knows because we have been talking about it since that Liar War George WMD Bush and housing crash that he did.
Every chance we had at reigning in the psychopathic elites was thwarted by the Conservatives ONLY.
The white dudes sold half of my generation to a liar war and the other half to crippling debt. So we voted in a black man and they revolted by selling out to foreign enemies to steal an election because they got caught stealing 2000 with the Brooks Brothers Riot.
The party of garbage is being taken out and the midterms show it. Polls are garbage and we don’t answer them because we want them to look like assholes like we did during the mid terms AND 2024.
What’s their plan? Ruin our lines of communication from now until 2024 by buying and destroying media in a way that looks like incompetence.
They might go and get crazy and attack the country again OR start pretending they’re Democrats - they already do.
Look at Ron ShitSandwich. Total incompetent shit bag. And he’s only 44. Plenty of time to get worse.
Fucking PREACH!
And then you woke up
The only reason conservatives win anything is because of lines on a fucking map. No one likes that shit
Oof. Almost every institution of politics in America allows them to rule the country as a minority party.
Think about how there are two senators for every state. So tens of millions of people in California get the same political representation as the like one million in Nebraska.
The Supreme Court was designed so that the institution was buffered from political winds. A bunch of conservatives can interpret the Constitution however they want with no political repercussions as a consequence.
States have a lot of leeway in deciding how to conduct elections. That's why they can have single ballot box at a single location in a district with millions of voters. And they do that and say the elections are fair.
Conservatives have advantages all over the place.
Both parties are gerrymandering as much as they can get away with. If you meant the electoral college that's part of being a federation of states, sorry. Changing the rules to benefit your team is not exactly fair either, right?
If the number of electors was distributed in a way that didn't give disproportional representation to states with very small populations, that would be great. Also, the notion that the US is truly a federation of independent states hasn't been accurate for at least 200 years.
It's a bit disproportional for a few states but then again, you can say the votes of people in Wyoming are worth more relatively speaking but it's still just 3 electors in the end. No one will pay much attention to them either way, unlike the more populous states which can swing elections.
You say that like it's a bad thing for people to be in charge rather than arbitrary lines drawn on maps.
I'm saying they don't matter with their 3 votes, I don't think the people there feel very important in deciding the presidential election.
It is not just Wyoming, but many states. States like Wyoming and North Dakota get 2-3 times the votes per population as states like California, Florida or Illinois. For states such as New Mexico and Arkansas, the ratio is more like 1.5 times the more populous states. It just doesn't make sense according to how the system is supposed to work.
Some people's vote being worth more is not exactly fair. Having equal representation isn't changing the rules to be in favor of one side, unless you count democracy as a "side".
No, that's a straight up lie. Multiple blue states have independent commissions that draw the maps, meanwhile red states refuse to allow even that.
I'm sick of fascists trying to gaslight people into believing that everyone is the same as they are. You're a blatant liar.
You're delusional
Typical repug, zero counter argument because you know you're a liar. Thanks for proving it.
We can all see you upvote your own posts
FYI: When you post, there's a single upvote automatically comes up.
One party wants to directly fuck with your life removing things people have found a need for, the other is slow. Pick your poison I guess.
And then you woke up.
Almond joys got deez nuts, Mounds don’t
Both candy bars are underrated though :3
I’ll die on this hill with you.
Fuck the teams. What's my team? I'm an independent. I've never once been registered in a party in my decades of voting. Knock off the team bullshit. It's how idiots think
It would be nice if 40-45% of the country didn't try to force the other 60% to live by their rules.
Lol you're only an independent because it inflates your ego. You actually think you're smarter than everyone else. You even say as much. It has fuck all to do with your political views or any desire to make the country a better place.
I'm an independent because I will vote for whoever makes sense. I never vote party line and I never vote for only one party consistently. If I'm calling people stupid it's because they think aligning with a party no matter what makes sense. It doesn't. It's rigid and ignorant. So yeah, I'm smarter than people like that
Just lately, republicans have become so toxic and stupid, I wouldn't dare vote that way. It's objectively terrible
We need and deserve ranked-choice voting.
And for that to happen we need the current gatekeepers to allow the change. There's no incentive for them to ever do what voters want or need
Would be nice if the majority doesn't force the minority to live by their rules either.
So instead you allow a crazy ass minority most people don't agree with to do the same thing. How convenient for you.