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Voters over 70 are backing Harris over Trump, 51 to 48 percent, Emerson College poll finds

A new poll shows some baby boomers and members of the Silent Generation are switching allegiances from former President Donald Trump to Vice President Kamala Harris. 

The Emerson College poll released Thursday  shows voters over 70 backing Harris over Trump 51 to 48 percent. That’s a small but positive shift for Harris, as last month, 50 percent of the group supported Trump while 48 percent backed President Joe Biden, who dropped out of the race and endorsed Harris last month.

The group includes some baby boomers, who were born between 1946 and 1964, and the Silent Generation, born between 1925 and 1945.

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[–] Ensign_Crab 150 points 2 months ago (4 children)

How about that. Harris moves to the left on domestic economic issues, and boomers switch to her. Even as prominent Republicans call her a commie.

Conventional "wisdom" within the centrist wing of the party is that we have to move to the right because boomers will flee in panic if we dare move to the left. Turns out, centrists have been full of shit this entire time. We've wasted so many years moving to the right for a lie. What else are centrists full of shit about?

[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (11 children)

Harris moves to the left on domestic economic issues, and boomers switch to her.

You might be making a classical correlation is not causation mistake here. There are a lot of separate reasons to prefer Harris over Trump.

[–] Ensign_Crab 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Where were you for the past few decades when centrists were gleefully announcing that all wins are because they moved to the right, and any losses are because they were too far to the left?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Here in Europe, where we are not burdened by two-party systems :-|

[–] TrashWizard 7 points 2 months ago

Except the UK (and Belarus I guess). Imo OPs statement rings true for British politics as well

[–] sirboozebum 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In Europe, literal fascists are elected to parliament.

Let's not jerk ourselves into a frenzy here.

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[–] Burn_The_Right 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What else are centrists full of shit about?

They're full of shit about being "centrist". Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every word.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

What aren't they full of shit about?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Literally everything.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 2 months ago (1 children)

did they finally realize GOP is going to take everything away from everyone who isn't a billionaire and give it to billionaires? like they started in 16?

[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Started in `16? I think you meant '81.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean the Business Plot was in ‘33

[–] Dkarma 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The concept crystalized at the core of the Republican party in the 1960s

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The old people I know are happy to volunteer that other old people need to get out of the way for the younger generation.

[–] Andonyx 8 points 2 months ago

As an old person, I approve this message. It's exhausting to keep screwing things up for everyone that comes after us.

[–] someguy3 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

When it comes to Harris’s running mate Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, 39 percent of voters have a favorable view. The same number has a favorable view of Trump’s number two, Ohio Senator JD Vance.

But 49 percent of voters have an unfavorable view of Vance while only 39 percent have an unfavorable view of Walz.

I can't believe Walz and Vance have the same favorable view.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 34 points 2 months ago (4 children)

That's what you get when fox news spouts outright lies and deception 24/7, when facebook controls the algorithm and gives zero fucks about content moderation, when campaigns are able to spend millions on attack ads, etc.

The U.S. election system is a joke.

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[–] fusionsaint 7 points 2 months ago

He's nationally unknown. As people get to know him more you'll see his favorable grow. Vance's won't.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

That's all well and good, but let's hope we see the fruits of this swing at the ballot box.

[–] Today 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I think a lot of people forget what the world was like when the older baby boomers came of age.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean yeah, the only people who could feasibly remember are starting to forget stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (6 children)

...

what.

No, WAT.

... I ... they ...

there's ... how the

Am I fucking dreaming?

Did I fucking DIE on the morning of July 21st 2024 and ALL of this has been nothing but a manic hallucination as all my neurons fire off for one last time?

what i mean is, i honestly thought the boomers were beyond help???

I could have SWORN they stopped giving a shit about anything but enriching themselves and fucking over their kids and grandkids and great grandkids just for the sake of their own sick amusement an entire decade ago.

I am legitimately astonished that there's a scrap of decency left in them to even COMPREHEND supporting anything but absolutely the worst of all available wrong decisions.

there's actually some part of me that wonders if kamala actually winning the support of THEM could actually be some kind of red flag... O_o; I'm not going to entertain that part or cultivate it, i'm going to starve it into atrophy now that i've expressed and confronted the thought, but still, this is such a shock that it was actually there.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, or it's just true that no group is a monolith and that even the misguided can change course. It's a good thing that was never impossible.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Republicans are coming for their old people benefits. They want to gut Social Security and Medicare. Any old person that has a scrap of intelligence hearing that is simply following their own self-interest to vote Democrat. Also helps that most young people in their lives are probably talking about Harris positively. We'll see if that pans out at the polls.

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