Alternative headline "Donald trump lies again"
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Maybe if we're lucky a bunch of his stupid base will emigrate there early thinking they'll be able to setup for him.
Jim Jones 2.0?
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The mob speak is insane, but in reality, would this be grounds to revoke any bail/bonds he's currently on?
When you're rich, they let you do it.
"Oh don't worry, he's just on vacation and/or has business there, he'll come back (after he sold other hidden US top secret information)"
They give you your ex best friend’s plane to ride away in
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Venezuela is an odd choice, considering most of his kind have historically fled to Argentina.
He... probably doesn't know the difference at this point...
Also, Milei is the same kind of crazy he is, wheras he's been shitting on Maduro and Vz forever.
You're right, and he probably thought he was saying Argentina.
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In 2022, it was reported that Vladimir Putin and his top leadership were developing a backup plan to flee to Venezuela if Russia were defeated in Ukraine.
Like a dog. Right to his masters lap, I see.
I don't disagree with the analogy, but Trump compares people negatively to dogs so often (and famously hates dogs) that I'm not a big fan of it.
Plus, we don't deserve dogs. They love unconditionally and are extremely loyal if treated right.
I'd say, "Like pond scum. He is going right to the lowest and grossest point of a lake."
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Very smart to say this publicly just a couple months before sentencing for 34 felony convictions.
5 weeks until sentencing. In theory
Openly staying that he is going to flee the country... With ongoing court cases. Time to revoke that passport
But he did say he’d go to Venezuela if he loses.
He did not.
As I explained earlier today, he was commenting about crime decreasing around the world and, if Kamala were elected, it would be safer to meet the person he was speaking with in Venezuela than in the United States.
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Evil commie Venezuela (as Republicans keep painting it)? Is that really the angle he's going for?
It was in the midst of claiming Venezuela dumped all of its criminals in the US. In Trump’s view Venezuela is safer than the US since America let all the Venezuelan criminals in through that open border.
Yeah, but imagine if it were the 60s and that claim was being made about the USSR, that it's safer than the US because all the criminals were sent to America, so he's going to go to the USSR if he loses.
The Republicans are still stuck in "we hate commies" mode. So this is a very weird thing for Trump to say.
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Venezuela is an ally of Russia.
Venezuela is an authoritarian state (for the moment).
Venezuela is thus perfect for Trump.
It all makes more sense when you realize these people don't know what 'communism' or 'socialism' are. It's just an alternative word for 'bad' to them. I once heard a Republican blame companies raising gas prices at the pump on 'socialism'.
Evidently many Lemmy users don’t understand that this a threat, not a promise to leave. Direct quote from Trump:
"If something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we'll meet the next time in Venezuela, because it'll be a far safer place to meet than our country," Trump said to Musk. "OK, so we'll go. You and I will go, and we'll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela."
He’s implying the violence that will be unleashed on the US by his followers if he looses will make Venezuela (a country that is currently in revolt because of contested elections) seem safe in comparison to what his people will do here.
This is a classic “mobster” threat against anyone who opposes him that he just threw out.
I remember when the protests and people upset at the 2016 election were somehow ultra violent and murderous even though they never attacked anyone. I also remember when Charlie Kirk claimed that Republicans, unlike democrats, would not lose their shit if they lost. We all know how that went.
You need to remember something about Trump. He IS mobster in the end of the day. When he and his father were getting shit done at the start of his career they had to work with the mafia and build contacts with them. This is also why he was somewhat able to get stuff working in New York construction during the 80s. When he became a pariah the only people who still worked with him are basically criminal types and foreign governments who knew how easy it was to sway him.
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Venezuela? that's an odd choice. He's distracting us from his Russian emigration plans
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Wouldn't that be a violation of his release following being convicted of 34 felonies?
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Sounds like he’s a flight risk.
Show us you mean it by fleeing there now. Then stay there to really get the message across.
"The United States isn't sending their best. They're sending rapists, they're criminals..."
I know he intended this as hyperbole but I 100% would not be surprised if the reason this popped into his head is because he's been making arrangements for exactly this.
If I were him I wouldn't want to hang around in the US after a loss in November. It's all or bust.
He’ll have some trouble if he actually tries. Secret service detail for former presidents and all.
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He said that about Biden winning. He is lying.
I'm sure they'd LOVE to have him after all the things he's said about their country
Yet another campaign promise he will likely break.
Member when he said if he lost to Biden we would never hear from him again? I ‘member
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Flight risk
Well if that's not a reason to vote for Kamala, I don't know what is.
Since he's a big fibber, maybe she could make it an election promise to enforce it.
Why wait? Trump could leave the United States right now and we'd all be better off.
Can we get that in writing?
As a former President, can he?
I'm not American, but my assumption was that the President's role was one for life, in that he will always have a presidential security detail with him, and while he can travel abroad it's probably only to countries with good diplomatic ties with the US.
A former President moving outside of a friendly jurisdiction could be a huge security issue that he couldn't just wave away.
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Trump said they will start a revolution if they lose and now they say they will leave the country if they lose?
They want other people to get them in power while they just wait in another country?
I hate Trump, but this framing is disingenuous. In the context of what he was saying, he was trying to make "a point" about South American countries sending criminals to the USA. He was claiming that if he doesn't win the election, it would be safer to have their next conversation in Venezuela because there would be no crime there as they'd have sent all criminals to USA.
So, you know, just more of his really stupid bullshit, but he wasn't really saying he would flee to Venezuela. For one, that would require him to believe he had done something wrong or to admit some kind of defeat, two things that I firmly believe he is incapable of doing.
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In the context of what he was talking about, it seemed like that was his weird way of trying to make Venezuela sound like a better place than what America would be under Kamala Harris. Best thing you can do really is just completely ignore this guy because he thrives on attention, negative or positive.
Imagine if the Project 2025 plans to question the results and bring it to the corrupt supreme court all failed because Trump impulsively fled? Would be hilarious
Trump should fear failing Putin more than anything the USA would do.
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