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[–] Breadhax0r 94 points 5 months ago

I guess way back when microsoft said than win10 would be the last version of windows, what the meant was it would be the last anyone wants to use.

[–] dinckelman 68 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft won't stop me from continuing to not use Windows

[–] pivot_root 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They certainly tried with Secure Boot. Thank Stallman that UEFI is a somewhat-open architecture.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

I think it’s more like what Mozilla is to google; Linux to Microsoft is a tool to prevent antitrust issues

[–] [email protected] 60 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What do you want me to do, Microsoft? Install Linux twice?

[–] tourist 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You can do that

I recommend it, even if you don't need it, bc it fun

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Oh yes! I have done it. A bunch of Linux VMs using Ovirt running on top of CentOS just to test some kernel changes.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] TCB13 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The good part: two garbage apps will be gone from windows 😂

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Replaced with one god awful one. I actually liked the calendar application, does all I need it to do. But no, I can't have just a calendar application anymore according to Microsoft

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Mozilla used to have Sunbird, until they also rolled it into Thunderbird. Standalone calendars aren't popular anymore, but in sure there's some around.

I understand the mail integration, as appointments can be processed directly.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

Thunderbird is acquiring Exchange features.

They haven’t turned them on just yet owing to a little last-minute work, but your ability to sync calendars and address books with an ActiveSync/Exchange-compatible eMail server is coming soon.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why would I want to use any app that MS makes

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Because some are good. VSCode for instance.

[–] Valmond 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Vscode is not that good IMO.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm open for suggestions for a better one, but for me it uniquely combines open source (kind of) with ease of use and functionality / expandability. I used emacs for more than a decade and switched to VSCode (although I don't do coding as my primary activity anymore). Tried neovim, sublime, netbeans and webstorm and didn't convince me.

[–] Wooki 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Neovim, hands down.

Mic drop

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

If I were writing code 40h a week maybe, but my emacs brain can't get used to vim motions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Technically still made by Microsoft, but what about VSCodium?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

That's what I meant by "kind of" open source.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why would you switch from Emacs? That's a genuine question, as an Emacs user?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Support for weird stuff like integration with smart home (home assistant), better syntax highlighting / autocomplete for specific cases (like the home assistant mentioned above), better support for mixed fonts, database integration, more efficient use of screen real estate for side panels and less effort to add new languages in general (cdk, terraform, k8s with crd, go, etc), one click github copilot...

My current role needs me to deal with whatever the customer is using, so a whole lot of variability, custom resources and libraries, languages that I'm not super familiar with... It's just easier.

If it helps, I'm still running Arch, BTW. (but probably will go with just debian when my computer dies, whenever that will be).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Atom was better. Pour one out for my homie

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yes officer, this comment right here.

[–] AnyOldName3 12 points 5 months ago

If anyone's in this thread because they're looking for a new mail client after Microsoft killed the old Mail app, and haven't been happy with the typical suggestions of using each email service's web interface or Thunderbird, I found I don't hate Mailspring (with the fancy features disabled - I just want my email client to do email well and don't want extras that provide clutter).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

New Outlook is a pile of shit compared to the desktop Outlook app. It's been causing a lot of headaches for my coworkers. Microsoft had better port near every single feature over to the newapp before they force everyone on it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Does it matter if everyone stays on windows 10?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you cannot stay on win10 forever though. deadline is approaching

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The majority of regular folks will only ever upgrade when they get a new computer. Most Me Maw's and Pa Paw's would sooner let their computers catch fire from being loaded with cat than get a new one. Hell. They are all still using ball mice.

As for me, as long as I have an iso I'll happily run it in a vm. Indefinitely.

[–] piyuv 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ball mice is better than laser mice since you can take out the ball and play with it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Can't argue with that. The ones with the big ball on the top are especially good because you can use an 8 ball

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The new outlook is utter garbage. It was in fact so bad that I uninstalled it and now use it through the web front-end only. And I'm doing that in Edge - as the only website this browser is allowed to open (asides from Teams, where the software is just as terrible).

If they call it a success that no more people are complaining because they just gave up, then, congrats... I guess?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh. This sounds like a good idea lol is the search a lot faster?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Not amazingly fast, but still quite a bit better indeed. Give it a try, to don't need to uninstall outlook to do that after all.

[–] pyre 4 points 5 months ago

oh no, please let me use those shitty apps that you keep pestering me to use and i say fuck off every time, please!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Good riddance.

I absolutely dislike Outlook desktop, don't trust it either. Used Thunderbird back in the day, but switched to emailing on tablets or phone + TrueNas for desktop files.

FairEmail Pro on tablet is all I need for email. It is open source and imo simplest to use. It's free and the pro version set me back 7€ or so.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

[meme] Oh no! Anyway... [/meme]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I actually like that app. But can't use it reliable now since they gave it up. Welcome EMClient and Thunderbird.

[–] Snapz -2 points 5 months ago

Willy Wonka, I invoke thee... please come express my feelings on this for me.