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cross-posted from: https://jlai.lu/post/8269177

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 5 months ago (4 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL 50 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Good point. But given that it’s Italy, maybe they already finished.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They are already in the showers

[–] Agent641 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Good news, they're still Italy.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The Netherlands just finished and walked out of this picture. But yeah we now have new discussions in Congress if umvolkung/the great replacement theory is a fact or if it a fascist conspiracy theory. According to the cabinet it's a fact and you can be minister and believe in it. (For example the minister that's decideds about immigration)

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[–] Tagger 56 points 5 months ago (17 children)

Why are the UK on here, were about to vote in a left wing party.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 5 months ago (6 children)

were about to vote in a left wing party

Bahahahahahahaha, omg I needed a good laugh this evening., thanks..

Guy literally purged every halfway leftist in the fucking party, and has spent his entire time as leader, and is aiming his entire election campaign on, pleasing capitalists and maintain the status quo. The man doesn't have a left leaning bone in his spineless self serving body.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Eh, still better than the Tories. Supermajority begins the process of dragging the overton window back left, which I'm all for

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Supermajority begins the process of dragging the overton window back left

Literally the opposite.

Normalising the current Labour party as anything even remotely left, which it isn't in any way shape or form, shifts the window to the right by removing actual left from the map altogether. That's the whole point of Starmer - to regain back ground for the right after what Corbyn awoke in the party and country.

We are getting a Tory whoever wins, they just wear different coloured ties.

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[–] roguetrick 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Dude literally promised to continue tory policies. He's a fucking Tory in a labour suit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Yup, but people don't want to hear it, they want to pat themselves on the back for "doing their part" and move on with their lives without ever having to stop to consider what they're actually endorsing and what part they are playing in this charade designed to keep us forever subservient to the owning class.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Starmer's Labour is about as left wing as the US Democrats are; by comparison only.

[–] Tagger 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, he really isn't. He's far to the left of them.

[–] iarigby 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

as i understood he has no intention of reversing the institutional damage from the Tories so he’s effectively supporting those anti welfare policies

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

He's pledged to set up a nationalised green energy company, increase funding to the NHS, and build 300,000 new homes per year. That seems a fairly decent start.

Issue is the Tories have tanked the economy and cut taxes, so Starmer's got fuck all money without raising taxes (unpopular, even though I think it's the right thing to do). Post election and with a massive amount of political capital to spend, I think we will see tax rises on those that can afford it, to help fix some of the damage.

[–] WormFood 10 points 5 months ago

on 'funding the nhs': his shadow health secretary says he will employ privatisation to reduce NHS waiting lists: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-59910107

incidentally he also accepted £175000 from donors linked to private healthcare and health insurance firms: https://www.thenational.scot/news/24250557.wes-streeting-takes-175k-donors-linked-private-health-firms

[–] Tagger 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not to mention renationalising passenger rail.

I swear some of the people on here only think you can be left wing if you want an 80% wealth tax of millionaires and are going to institute universal basic income.

Starmer is running a balance between left wing and actually getting fucking elected

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I swear some of the people on here only think you can be left wing if you want an 80% wealth tax of millionaires and are going to institute universal basic income.

Welcome to Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not counting chickens until they're hatched, I guess?

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[–] Pirasp 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry, you are still in the running, it's just a temporary setback.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because of the last 10 years or so?

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[–] Veraxus 41 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If only the American public responded like the French public when fascists try to seize power.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For real, the French Resistance is estimated at like 3% of their people lol

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[–] EmpathicVagrant 14 points 5 months ago

We’re corn-fed financial cattle, we can work sleep and handle a dozen crises at once individually; yet we’re unable to see that we share objectives because of team politics and exclusionary grouping. A lack of solidarity because it’s not allowed.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Are you allowed to leap across the finish line like that?

Edit: guess so?

[–] mkwt 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're allowed to use any mode of locomotion in a track race, including skipping, crawling, or moonwalking, as long as it's under your own power.

[–] Agent641 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

A bicycle is under my own power?

[–] chaogomu 14 points 5 months ago

It is not. There are also rules about the type of shoe you can wear. But other than that, if you can cartwheel and backflip fast enough while staying completely in your lane, then you can do it in a race.

Because that's another rule. No leaving your lane.

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[–] CptEnder 29 points 5 months ago (5 children)

As an American moving to France soon (work), come on mannnn...

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[–] lugal 27 points 5 months ago

Germany: "We won last time. It's ok to be third place this time."

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Being french ATM :

[–] gi1242 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

what did France recently do to leap ahead?

[–] homesweethomeMrL 38 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Marie Le Pew’s far-right party is gathering more followers for ? reasons?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Macron's party is pulling out of races to give the socialists a better chance of cutting off the nazis.

It could work. We will see.

[–] joneskind 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Don’t give Macron too much credit here.

He’s the one to blame for the far right’s victory with his same-same language, has he pushed the discourse that the left party is in fact a dangerous antisemitic far left party.

The left party was the first to pull out of races to let macron’s representatives win against the far right, even though it would cost them much more.

Macron is an absolute POS.

[–] Valmond 13 points 5 months ago

Don't give them too much credit, everyone's doing it and they were the last to do so too.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The reason being that a single fascist billionaire owns several TV channels, radio stations and newspapers.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 8 points 5 months ago

Hey - Hey, I’ve seen this one!

[–] joneskind 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Marie Le Pew sounds way too nice for that POS

It’s Marine Le Pen, and her goon Jordan Bardella (who has Algerian origins from his grandmother but ignores that completely and prefers talking about his Italian origins from his grandfather)

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[–] Aux 8 points 5 months ago

Le Penis party didn't achieve anything yet.

[–] smooth_tea 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm speaking in general terms because I'm not familiar with French politics, I just live in a neighboring country. But are we really surprised that it's moving in that direction? In a general sense, the right will always blossom in climates like these, migrants pouring in from decades of war, prices skyrocketing, the Russia affair further polarizing and instilling fear, a general lack of progress. But more importantly, while the right does its best to cultivate the most basic of emotional responses, the left seems unable to come up with anything attractive let alone exciting. And we can argue that progress and good choices can be utterly dull and unappealing, at some point we will have to realize that good ideas still need to be marketed to the people and that it's not enough to equate anything right-wing with fascism and hope that it will do the heavy lifting. We have become preoccupied with complaining about the right in such a way that we can no longer allow critique of what the left is failing to do. If they can do no good then we can do no wrong.

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[–] samus12345 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Whatever it was, the US Supreme Court deciding that presidents are immune from prosecution beats it by a very, very long shot.

[–] TropicalDingdong 6 points 5 months ago

People think that Macrons gambit was a mistake.

They're wrong, but its what they think.

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