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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's right, information wants to be free. Don't support stronger copyright just to spite people it'll benefit

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I can see a lot of comments against copyright here, but has anyone considered the implications of changes to copyright on copyleft?

I argue copyleft is demonstrably socially useful in locking things open. I do wonder if we'll end up the two being different legally....

[–] afraid_of_zombies 7 points 1 day ago

Anyone in this thread is creating derivative works and you should not be reading it without the written permission of verge.com's parent company.

[–] nl4real 11 points 1 day ago

Oh hey, Microsoft support moving away from copyright! Trollface

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Its not stolen if it is still there afterwards.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

That's funny, so do I.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Copyright infrigment is not theft, training models is not copyright infringement either. We need a law equivalent to when an artist says "he's inpired by someone else" . That it specifically is illegal to do that without permission if you use a machine. That will force big tech to pay a pittance for it and it will instakill all the small player.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (6 children)

He spoke carelessly, but he didn't exactly say what the author said he said. You can in fact do many things with it. Copyright doesn't care what you do if you aren't copying. That's the definition of the word.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So I can pirate as many movies as I want as long as I'm only watching them?

Let these rich guys keep talking for a sec. I can get behind this somewhat.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

he gets paid a lot to not speak carelessly

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (9 children)

so we can steal Microsoft's products?

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[–] [email protected] 197 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Fair use once it's posted on the web? Thank you very much for the framework to pirate anything and everything.

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[–] profdc9 37 points 2 days ago

In other news: we have lawyers to protect our copyrights, you don't. Suck it.

[–] Subverb 35 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It's okay to plagiarize books if they're in a library.

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[–] CriticalMiss 92 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Sure bud, pirating some Microsoft Studio video games and windows ISOs right now. What? I found them on the open web!

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Pirating Windows for your own personal, private use, which will never directly make you a single dollar: HIGHLY ILLEGAL

Scraping your creative works so they can make billions by selling automated processes that compete against your work: Perfectly fine and normal!

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[–] [email protected] 128 points 3 days ago (3 children)

And this is why I don't have ANY moral qualms about pirating shit: they'd do it to us in a heartbeat if there was a buck to be made.

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[–] Buffalox 33 points 3 days ago (18 children)
[–] cmhe 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

"Copying is theft" is the argument of corporations for ages, but if they want our data and information, to integrate into their business, then, suddenly they have the rights to it.

If copying is not theft, then we have the rights to copy their software and AI models, as well, since it is available on the open web.

They got themselves into quite a contradiction.

[–] BoxOfFeet 4 points 1 day ago

You wouldn't download a car!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

You realize that half of Lemmy is tying themselves in inconsistent logical knots trying to escape the reverse conundrum?

Copying isn't stealing and never was. Our IP system that artificially restricts information has never made sense in the digital age, and yet now everyone is on here cheering copyright on.

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