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[–] [email protected] 130 points 6 months ago (11 children)

"Preparation purist" is wrong. You don't boil the tea, you steep it in hot water. For some teas, like black tea, you usually boil the water before pouring it over the tea, but other types of tea use water that isn't as hot (e.g. around 70-80°C for green tea).

Also, if you actually want to be an ingredient purist, tea must be made from the leaves of Camellia sinensis (or a closely related species).

[–] [email protected] 88 points 6 months ago (3 children)

You're arguing with a meme that put clogged gutter as pure tea ingredient

[–] Manifish_Destiny 56 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Correct. That would be tea as long as it's camellia sinensis.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] gedaliyah 10 points 6 months ago

No, this is Patrick.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

In China it's called 地沟茶

[–] problematicPanther 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

i mean, if you consider tea to be leaves soaked in water until the flavor comes out, then clogged up gutter water is tea.

[–] bitwaba 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What's the proper steeping time for decaying oak leaves "until the flavor comes out"?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You hit the issue, theyre confusing tea, a specific plant, with an infusion. Herbal tea is more correctly called an herbal infusion. Tea is a type of herbal infusion.

[–] bitwaba 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbal_tea :

... most dictionaries record that the word tea is also used to refer to other plants beside the tea plant and to beverages made from these other plants. In any case, the term herbal tea is very well established and much more common than tisane.

Furthermore, in the Etymology of tea, the most ancient term for tea was 荼 (pronounced tu) which originally referred to various plants such as sow thistle, chicory, or smartweed, and was later used to exclusively refer to Camellia sinensis (true "tea")

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

I came to say the same thing about Camellia sinensis, thinking "am I about to be more of a tea purist than is even encapsulated in this chart?" So I'm glad somebody else got there first lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm steeping in sweat and I drank a lot of camellia sinensis, am I tea?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Unfortunately for you, yes. Please report to the nearest Tetley factory for processing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I've been to a workshop about green tea recently and you can prepare it with any water temperature. You can make it with cold water, it just takes longer. You can even place ice cubes into the can, put tea leaves on top and let them melt

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

This standard is not meant to define the proper method for brewing tea intended for general consumption, but rather to document a tea brewing procedure where meaningful sensory comparisons can be made.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

100% agreed.

Though I'm firmly in the "coffee is tea" camp

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

As long as you're not claiming to be a purist I'll allow it.

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[–] gedaliyah 10 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Coffee with vanilla and soy milk is a three bean soup.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (7 children)

It depends. It's perfectly acceptable to boil the tea for many Indian preparations (usually called cha or chai).

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

Actually ingredient purist should be "tea must be made from tea leaves (Camellia sinensis)". Black and green tea both come from the same plant. There are people who will tell you that chamomile is a "herbal infusions" and not tea because it comes from a different plant.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

If it's not made of tea, it's not tea. It's an infusion.

It's extra annoying to me because in my first language there's separate words for "tea-tea" and "some boiled herbs-tea" that are commonly used, but thanks to lazy translation people are beginning to call everything "tea".

[–] BugleFingers 15 points 6 months ago

If it doesn't come from the Camellia sinensis region of France it's not real tea, just sparkling leaf water

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thank you! Tisanes are not tea. I will die on this hill.

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[–] ummthatguy 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Preparation futurist, Ingredient singularity:

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

There's a singularity in that nebula.

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[–] Norodix 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Anyone who would say no to a nice hot cup of Saturn is deranged.

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[–] psilotop 22 points 6 months ago

It's only tea if it's made from the tea region of the plant. Anything else is sparkling suspension

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Crude oil is texas tea, but mac and cheese requires milk not water.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I think I've seen mac and cheese cups that ask for hot water.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

milk is tea

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[–] corus_kt 19 points 6 months ago

Tea preparation rebels are not constrained by shallow concepts like 'being edible'

[–] ZMoney 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Saturn is a mixture of gases. It has a solid rocky/hydrogen core surrounded by a layer of liquid hydrogen/helium. You could argue that this intermediate liquid layer might have solid particulates, and this would agree with the definition, but overall Saturn is too complicated to be classified this way. A better extreme example would be something like Earth's oceans.

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[–] devilish666 15 points 6 months ago

As miso soup enjoyer i can confirm it's tea, because it's relaxing & delicious

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Coffee is the best tea

[–] veganpizza69 10 points 6 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

So because i make cold berry tea in summer and think coffee is a tea too, i'm a "crude oil is tea" sort of guy? 🤨

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[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices 10 points 6 months ago (17 children)

except... with "pure" tea you don't consume the original ingredient. (eating tea leaves or coffee grounds? eeww.)

pho, etc you do. ergo, not tea.

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[–] Censored 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, but BOILING? You do not BOIL tea leaves unless you are an absolute heathen. You may pour just-off-the-stove, formerly boiling water over black tea leaves, making the tea about 210 degrees Fahrenheit. But you do NOT put allow water with tea leaves in it to BOIL unless you are seriously deranged.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Yeah this. Biggest mistake most people that hate tea make is they dont bother learning that tea has specific temps for brewing depending on the leaves and that pouring boiling water off the stove on it will make most teas bitter.

Many teas are best at 85-90C, just off the boil.

[–] johannesvanderwhales 6 points 6 months ago

Really feels like one should be "tea is made from tea"

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