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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce 116 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The GOP is right, there is a 2 tiered justice system. It tilts in their favor at the moment. Look at all the shit Trump has gotten away with. Look at the light sentences handed down for a majority of the Jan 6 traitors. And they are still bitching about it.

[–] Veraxus 34 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Look at the illegitimate, corrupt, terrorists in SCOTUS currently ruling this country by fascist fiat.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce 18 points 6 months ago

You might say it’s Supremely Fucked.

[–] rayyy 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It tilts in their favor ~~at the moment~~ because they pervert the system.

[–] FenrirIII 10 points 6 months ago

They have been weakening the system for decades and it's paying off.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I mean, yeah. Sounds about right, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Okay, yes, under the law that currently exists, Hunter Biden was absolutely guilty.

On the other hand...

Doesn't it strike people as just a little bit fucked up that you can lose a fundamental constitutional right that easily? Should you lose the right to, say, vote if you smoke pot (which is still illegal under federal law!)? Should you lose the right to a trial by a jury of your peers, with legal representation, if you're addicted to Oxy? Should you be forced to go to an evangelical, Christian nationalist church if you're an alcoholic? There's a pretty decent argument that conviction of a violent crime--including misdemeanor domestic battery--should cause you to lose your 2A rights. But this isn't a case of someone being convicted of anything.

[–] OlinOfTheHillPeople 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Shout it from the mountains:

Republicans are coming after your guns!

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[–] themeatbridge 11 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Counterpoint, no rights are absolute. There are conditions and restrictions on every "fundamental constitutional right." Freedom of speech does not include slander or inciting violence. Freedom of religion does not protect abuse or acts of violence. Freedom to bear arms does not include weapons of war or negligent behavior.

Addiction is a medical condition, and should not be treated by criminal courts. On the other hand, addiction does undermine an individual's rational thinking. Should addicts be permitted to carry firearms? I don't think that is an unreasonable restriction.

The problem with my argument is that I don't think our restrictions on gun ownership go nearly far enough. Addiction is a problem, but it's not the most pressing problem we have related to gun violence.

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[–] Wrench 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I think that Hunter was only prosecuted for this crime because of who his father is. A real witch hunt. But at the same time, I'm not losing any sleep over it. He broke the law, and he's someone with a lot of resources at his disposal and should have known better.

As for the law itself, I think the law should exist, but the potential punishment of 25 years is absurd.

I do think that keeping guns out of easy, legal, access of active drug abusers is appropriate. But as you say, without a conviction, the scope of those restrictions should be narrow and appeal-able.

And the punishment for being untruthful on a checkbox of an application should be a slap on the wrist. Confiscation of the firearm(s), and maybe community service. It should be the governments job to do proper screening, not the applicants job to screen themselves out.

But like I said before, I'm not going to lose any sleep over this, even if I do think it's an unfair punishment for an arbitrarily enforced law, on someone targeted by a cult simply because of his family.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I do think that keeping guns out of easy, legal, access of active drug abusers is appropriate. But as you say, without a conviction, the scope of those restrictions should be narrow and appeal-able.

Considering that the form 4473 that you have to sign to purchase a firearm makes no mention of alcohol, I think this is hypocritical, at best. What's the difference between alcoholics owning a firearm, and heroin addicts owning a firearm? All I know is that I would be way less worried about the junkie gun owner than a raging alcoholic gun owner.

Its a dumb law, that was probably spawned from racism. Nobody should have their gun rights removed if they did not do or threaten anything violent.

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[–] asteriskeverything 37 points 6 months ago

Bitch THIS is what the bias news is at work.
Aoc is dumbing it down way too much but yes it is great that sometimes the system works.

It is AWFUL it only works when it is in the favor of one side and that side is NEVER held accountable.

So fucking weird that these Holy Christians are convinced their ~~Christain~~ republican figureheads and leaders are righteous, when everything about our current situation can equally biblically paint them as followers of the antichrist. but what do I know.

[–] Zehzin 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think the only people who remotely give a shit about Hunter Biden are 24 hr news channels.

[–] groats_survivor 16 points 6 months ago

I assure you, Hunter Biden will not receive my vote for President of the United States

[–] rayyy 33 points 6 months ago

How about they review FFL applications and see what box Don Jr checked when he bought his guns.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Well yeah…the problem is that the republicans don’t accept when it works. We’ve know this for years now, some dem leader gets accused of something and they most often step down or get charged it was legit. Republicans get accused of something they actually did and praise lawd Jesus Christ sowhatifidid and they stay put.

[–] Etterra 25 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's also yet another example of how hard and fast the right will pivot to spin reality into more insane propaganda.

Faux News Before: Hunter will never be indicted because Daddy Joe is corrupt!

Faux News Now: Hunter is taking a fall for Daddy Joe to distract us all!

See how that works. Not to mention their doublethink, such as Biden is "an evil mastermind" but he's also a doddering old man who can't spell his own name." And their faithful flock eat it up and believe it all, because it reinforces their expectations while wrapping their understanding of reality so much that they're expectations become what the propaganda tells them they should be.

[–] Valmond 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's like the lazy foreigner that takes your job.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Is Hunter Biden even relevant to anything political? Are the Dems as a whole actually losing anything by letting him face this conviction?

[–] samus12345 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

He's relevant in that this is the first time the child of a sitting president has been convicted of a felony, but I highly doubt that this will dissuade anyone who would have voted for Biden from doing so. Most people who say otherwise weren't voting for him anyway. NOT letting him face the conviction would certainly have had a negative impact, though!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Only thing I can think of is among low information voters it sort of looks like both democrats and republicans are charging one another with crimes

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children)

Since when are all politicians just three letter abbreviations? AOC, DJT, MTG, where did this come from I hate it

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] postmateDumbass 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago

LBJ, JFK, FDR

Hell, TR had a two letter abbreviation!

[–] hardaysknight 6 points 6 months ago (14 children)

My guess is back when Twitter had the 160 character cap

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 15 points 6 months ago (4 children)

FDR and JFK pre-date that by a bit.

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[–] Xanis 5 points 6 months ago (10 children)
[–] AstridWipenaugh 6 points 6 months ago

Cucker Fuckin Tarlson

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[–] Lightsong 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Dems: if our representative is guilty, get rid of them! Repubes: if our representative is guilty, forgive them!

[–] jeffw 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You mean, like Al Franken or something? Because Hunter ain’t elected

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

It's strange that people really believed anybody on the left would oppose some random corporate businessman's sentencing.

[–] 33550336 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Meanwhile maga republicans still cant accept that trump is a felon

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Just let me know when it starts working.

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