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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] NounsAndWords 121 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Me when I first read who the narrator was.

[–] YarHarSuperstar 10 points 6 months ago

Wow, without feathers getting even side effects!

[–] Viking_Hippie 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gotta love Woody Harrelson 😆❤️

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I will never forget his iconic role in Rampart... AmA.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What's your favorite color?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Let's get back to questions about Rampart. Also don't ask about that incident with the high school girl.

[–] Fedizen 106 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

guy with enormous megaphone: "they're trying to silence me, everybody click on my thing! I'm so silenced! I have secret truths!"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

If they don't want me to see it, it must be true!

[–] Duamerthrax 2 points 6 months ago

The worms speak the secret truth to him

[–] partial_accumen 47 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

RFK jr is going to siphon away possible Trump voters, not possible Biden voters. I have no problem with this.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago

He won't have the (R) next to his name. I hope you're right, but the Never Trumpers talk a big game every time... then bend the knee.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

We hope... There's a lot riding on that hope.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Yeah, talking to some folks on a recent visit to the states. It sounds like there are at least some young voters who would normally vote D but won’t because of Biden’s age that are leaning towards RFK. I don’t think his influence can be easily dismissed

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I dunno. His own staffer came out and said their entire purpose was to keep Biden from winning re-election. Third party candidates don’t typically siphon votes away from the party that religiously tows the line. The republicans have gotten their voters in lockstep formation, to a scary degree. The democrats have a harder time because their needed voters are a wide swath of different people, from those scared of republicans (really the dems bread and butter), to people who want social programs, to liberals, to liberal-leaning conservatives (though this group has been disappearing for a while), to leftists that begrudgingly vote for the lesser of two evils…it’s a melting pot. That’s also why the dems have a harder time winning, typically. The dems and the left will debate procedural shit for how to accomplish similar goals. The right is all emotional appeals/reactionaries. Herding cats vs shooting fish in a barrel. I wouldn’t be so sure about RFK jr only appealing to the right.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Third party candidates don’t typically siphon votes away from the party that religiously tows the line.

Trump doesn't really tow the line, through. He's a manifestation of a revolt from inside the GOP's white nationalist electoral core, against the financial internationalist who have controlled the party since Reagan.

I don't think it's clear who RFK is really feeding from. It's possible his voters simply wouldn't turn out if he wasn't on the ballot. But it's doubtful that he can steal Biden voters by parroting Trump positions.

The dems and the left will debate procedural shit for how to accomplish similar goals. The right is all emotional appeals/reactionaries.

Liberal admins don't debate procedural shit, they kill legislation hostile to their donors with technicalities. These same technicalities never affect our illegal wars or unconstitutional policing or criminally unconscionable polluting or corrupt corporate bailouts.

The big difference between libs and cons is that cons demand their red meat and are willing to lose an election or two to guarantee it, while liberals are constantly running scared of their replacements in the next election.

The emotion you see isn't unique to conservatives. It's simply rewarded rather than shamed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Trump doesn’t really tow the line though

No, but their voters would sacrifice themselves to tow the line. That was my point.

it’s doubtful that he can steal Biden votes by parroting trump positions.

I dunno. There are plenty of relatively shallow thinking democrats. It’s called a “protest vote” for a reason.

Liberal admins don’t debate procedural shit

I didn’t mean “procedural shit” like inside baseball house floor procedural. I meant the voters are multifaceted and disagree on how to achieve what liberals and leftists can generally agree upon: social programs and the like. See what I’m saying? I’m really tired and I’m not explaining this well, but I’m saying even if leftists and liberals and democrats can all be somewhat on the same page about a general outcome they’d like to see, there are segments of that voting populace that would withhold their vote if the the issue is discussed in a way they can’t get behind or the route to the agreed-upon solution isn’t exactly to their liking.

There was a tweet someone posted just the other day on the leftist meme community, basically saying “fascists are leftists’ #2 greatest enemy, behind the other leftist who agrees with them roughly 96%.” You’ll also get a lot more single issue voters, or leftists that will be turned away because they can’t sacrifice their morals on one issue the candidate doesn’t agree with them on, while undeniably accomplishing many things the leftist does support. We have principles, basically. And sacrificing those principles is a lot harder for us than a right wing voter that see Red and mashes that button as fast as they can.

The democrats’ likely voters are finicky and incredibly diverse. On the right, the voters tow the line pretty much universally. No matter what happens, the republicans can’t seem to lose votes past a certain point. The democrats have to get a lot of stuff right for a pretty diverse group of voters, all in a row, to keep their voters turning out.

cons demand their red meat and are willing to lose an election or two to guarantee it.

If I’m understanding this correctly, I think I strongly disagree. But can you clarify this? Because I’m not sure I do actually understand what you mean.

[–] Hobbes_Dent 42 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Did Woody ask if they could talk about Rampart?

[–] STRIKINGdebate2 8 points 6 months ago

I dunno. I would have no interest in watching such a thing.

[–] Lifecoach5000 6 points 6 months ago

Deep cut lol

[–] blazera 36 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This is just how capitalism works. Society's resources are divied up based on capital. But capital is one of those resources. So it feedback loops into concentrating more and more resources into fewer and fewer hands. And elon is the poster child for just how incompetent you can be and it not matter.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 19 points 6 months ago

Unlimited Passive Income, baby! The white whale of every tech bro.

[–] Sanctus 4 points 6 months ago

Well yeah its not about competence. Its about how much capital you already have. That's the only prerequisite to power.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What is scary is how consistently cruel, apathetic and ignorant our plutocrats are, which is exactly why we gave up on monarchy in the first place.

It shows us how capitalism doesn't work and just deteriorates to rule by force (but with more manufactured consent).

[–] masquenox 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

which is exactly why we gave up on monarchy

We didn't give up on monarchy. We guillotined the fuck out of it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Hey, only some folk guillotined it away, lots of the rest of us either still have the monarchy, or just kinda wandered off, fought with the monarchy for a little bit and now are on speaking terns but do their own thing.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago
[–] BlackNo1 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

glad that feeling i had that woody harrelson is a massive cunt was correct

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Now, now, there's no need for that kinda talk.

We should probably stick to talking about Rampart

[–] DeepThought42 17 points 6 months ago

If they made a documentary about the life of little Bobby's brain worm, I might watch that. Provided, of course, that it's also narrated by Woody Harrelson.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Great. Now I can't enjoy anything new from Woody Harrelson.

[–] BigPotato 12 points 6 months ago

You could just focus on Rampart instead.

[–] RampantParanoia2365 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

......ok....and how does this demonstrate his power, again? I'm not following.

[–] Phegan 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It demonstrates his reach.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

His "reach" is 90% bots and the rest are white supremacists and crypto bros

[–] masquenox 5 points 6 months ago

the rest are white supremacists

Sooo... the vast majority of the US political establishment?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

im baffled that someone was seemingly notified for what is literally two paragraphs and a sentence.

What has the internet come to these days?

[–] Daft_ish 3 points 6 months ago

The part about his battle with brain worms was truly inspiring.

[–] RizzRustbolt 2 points 6 months ago