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[–] [email protected] 121 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

In 2016, the blue team won by 3 million votes and still lost the election. The system is broken. I'll still vote blue, but I don't think it will matter, especially since I'm not in a swing state.

The Electoral College Explained

[–] errer 54 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Matters for your more local elections. Those swing states still send a lot of republicans to Congress every election. And control of Congress is pretty damn important.

[–] Eldritch 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

More important than who's president.

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Turning 35 this September. Only 1 Republican has won the popular vote since I was born.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

They don't care.

Sure they will tell people that democracy will end if Trump is reelected but actually trying to fix the voting system is too hard.

Not that there has been any movement to do something about it. Just vote Democrat™.

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[–] mlg 48 points 7 months ago (5 children)

DNC and DNC shills expecting free votes because they're democratically funding a genocide instead of fascistly funding a genocide

You morons in November when Trump inevitably wins due to horrendous voter turnout in November from former Democrat voters and not because the 5 communists in the USA made the difference

It's like a copy paste of Trump v Clinton and clearly no one learned their lesson from literally 8 years ago.

[–] pachrist 26 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Fielding bad candidates because you can't be bothered to do the bare minimum has been a thing forever. As a friendly reminder, the thing that scared the DNC and RNC the most in my lifetime wasn't Trump, 9/11, or anything like that. It was Ross Perot.

They'd both burn everything rather than let anyone else play the game.

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[–] DrownedRats 42 points 7 months ago (9 children)

"I would fight fascism to my last breath" "I would be part of the resistance movement if a fascist government took power"

proceeds to do none of the un-sexy things needed to prevent fascism from taking hold in the first place

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[–] someguy3 41 points 7 months ago (9 children)

And then they ask "wHy dO tHe dEms mOvE tO tHe CenTrE wHeN tHeY lOsE i dOn'T uNdErsTanD".

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (12 children)

I think that's been a proven case for European parliamentary democracies giving way to right wing and fascist parties. But that's more the reverse: the liberal and center-left move center and then lose.

But US politics doesn't have much leftist policy to shed, or many leftist politicians to exoricate, so it is more that even when Democrats win, policy stays right of center. Which is where the frustrated remark "both parties are the same" comes from, which everyone also shits on.

Since you know, the centre right continually stretches further right like a rubber band.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (4 children)

SURELY the DNC will listen if they don't vote, don't run, and don't donate, but post a genocide Joe meme from their phone also made available by genocide while wearing clothes manufactured by a genocidal state on land acquired from an ethnic cleansing. That's the morally upstanding thing to do.

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[–] franklin 38 points 7 months ago (6 children)

If anyone actually wants to stop the genocide in Gaza please vote out your republican congressman, almost every Republican congressman supported the resolution to restart weapons shipments and almost every democrat voted against it.

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[–] gmtom 37 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I can't believe France wom that election

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[–] cygon 37 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I wonder what their idea of the outcome is.

Tankie: "I convinced 20 Democratic Party voters to stay at home (and did the same for 0 Republican Party voters). Wait until Democratic politicians see that more voters favored the far right party. Then they're going to move left and fall on their knees and beg me to forgive them."

(Cue scene: swastika-adorned tanks rolling past the window)

"Stupid liberals, unwilling to fight the fascists like us true leftists." (Watches tanks and twiddles thumbs.) (Fetches keyboard.) "Let's tell everyone online that it's their own fault and they deserve this." (Sudden sound of harsh knocking on front door.)

At best, their actions will "only" cause another grid-locked presidency where progressives can't get their reforms to pass (which will then be used as the reason to abandon the likely last line of non-violent defense against fascists).

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (18 children)

It's entirely the Democratic Party's fault if Trump wins another term. But their online cheerleaders are so keen to blame Communists who are such a miniscule percentage of the voting population. Are you going to start Muslim-bashing as well if they don't turn out in huge numbers to vote for Joenicide?

The sole "Trump will be worse" pitch and constant hostility is absolutely pathetic, and not an election winning strategy. Even your own party leadership knows it. The disconnect between the actual party and it's online supporters is huge.

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[–] Maggoty 27 points 7 months ago (14 children)

Oh wow now they're Trump supporters and Communists? LMAO

This is getting ridiculous.

[–] riodoro1 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

They are not team blue so they are team bad. The rules of ~~football~~ politics are simple

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (5 children)

The biggest joke here is that US voters will ever be able to directly vote for the President

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[–] masquenox 24 points 7 months ago (4 children)

So how is the whole "blame-leftists-for-the-abysmal-failure-of-our-fake-democracy" gaslighting project going?

It seems a bit laggy.

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[–] lugal 20 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I'm so glad that I live outside the US. Not that we have good options but at least more than 2. I guess I would still vote for Biden but I wouldn't call it a democracy

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[–] NutWrench 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Try to think beyond your adorable little "protest vote" when your choices are between boring corporatists and 100% concentrated evil. Or you may never have to worry about voting ever again.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Ah the daily fascism discourse multiplier thread. There's never any meaningful discourse that comes out of these: just divisive kafkaesque noise.

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[–] Aceticon 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (19 children)

Oh, the massive hypocrisy of Biden refusing to swallow his Zionist principles and stop their Genocide, whilst at the same time sending his tribe's peons around to try and convince millions of people to swallow their Humanist principles and vote for a guy who supports Genocide.

Biden could pretty much guarantee a win tomorrow by announcing that it has been determined that Israel is indeed committing war crimes, followed by cutting support for them as per the Law when the recipient of help is committing such crimes, ideally followed by sanctions.

Yet he doesn't and instead there's a clear propaganda op with repeated variations of the claim that "Not being for Biden is being for Trump" (which, curiously, is just the authoritarianist argument "those who are not with us are agains us").

Why does the supposedly elected representative of all Americans firmly refuse to follow Americans as they turned against the Zionist Genocide and instead acts like all dictators by doing what he himself wants disregarding the will of those he is supposed to represent?

The argument of this and other similar posts which have innundated Lemmy would be a lot stronger if Biden wasn't an example of doing the exact opposite of what these posts demand from others, both the part of doing whatever it takes to stop Trump (which, as I explained above. Biden is not) and swallowing one's principles to stop something worse (i.e. Biden stopping acting as a Zionist in order to secure the votes to guarantee that Trump is stopped).

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[–] AshMan85 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

OP does not know what a tankie is.

[–] PugJesus 38 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (10 children)

An authoritarian self-proclaimed 'leftist' who loudly decries anything that's not 100% in-line with their desires as 'shitlib' policy that must be opposed even at the cost of ushering in actual fascism. This actual fascism is also often described by tankies as 'not that bad' or 'the exact same' as the 'shitlib' policies they oppose. Dissenters are inevitably reactionaries who must be (often literally) crushed, as they don't reflect the TRUE will of the people (ie whatever the opinion of the tankie is).

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Wow… no notes

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[–] ZILtoid1991 17 points 7 months ago (6 children)

That's just the tip of the iceberg.

They often help fascists in the doxxing and smear campaign of more libertarian leftists, as an example.

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