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Well, Microsoft is getting ready to annoy its faithful Windows 10 user base with yet another prompt. This time, Microsoft wants Windows 10 users to switch from using a local account to their online Microsoft account.

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[-] just_another_person 106 points 4 weeks ago

Man, Microsoft really seems like they don't want power users on their OS anymore. Forced AI junk, Ads, MS accounts, and all kinds of other junk. Waiting to see what the Linux Desktop adoption numbers are this fall.

[-] BombOmOm 42 points 4 weeks ago

2023 was the year of the Linux laptop for me. 2024 is shaping up to be the year of the Linux desktop for myself as well.

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[-] dual_sport_dork 8 points 4 weeks ago

As much as I like to see this sentiment, I think now as ever the people who actually follow through with moving to Linux will be few in number.

Most users who get fed up and decide the hell with it are likely to just buy a Mac instead, as revolting a development as that may be.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

yeah this was me. swapped to Mac. Couldn't bring myself to sign up to all the debugging that would go into having a Linux based laptop. I left windows due to the overhead of disabling the bloatware, popups and general bullshit. I didn't want to swap that for other ongoing issues. Just give me something that works. It's an OS, not a hobby project

[-] iopq 6 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, but Mac is actually weird and unintuitive. Like, I never figured out that to install programs you have to drag them in. I just clicked on the icon after opening the .dmg

[-] PlutoniumAcid 7 points 4 weeks ago

My brother got a Mac for work. He couldn't get used to the fact that a simple press of the Home key wouldn't go to the start of the line; it goes to the start of the FILE.

Why??

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

Adoption rate is increasing from what I've heard. But you're right, Linux/a Linux distribution isn't going to take over anytime soon.

But I think once those users truly switched to Linux, very few will switch back. Sure there'll be the odd gamer who absolutely "needs" to play that one game which has anti-cheat that's unsupported on Linux. But other than that, once you're in, you're likely in for good. And long-term you pass it on to your family, mainly your children (my first computer was a DOS/Windows machine mostly because my dad used the OS himself then).

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[-] [email protected] 93 points 4 weeks ago

Knock it off, Microsoft. You're not my buddy, you're an OS. Your job is to sit down, shut up, and run the programs I choose. That's it.
If I find a function that's useful for more than a week, I might make a batch file for it. Until then, you're spare code.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 4 weeks ago

Personally I love that Microsoft did this. Please keep making windows more and more shit and annoying to use so people will switch to something else

[-] [email protected] 45 points 4 weeks ago

You vastly underestimate the tolerance of an average user who barely knows their way around a web browser and Word.

[-] werefreeatlast 8 points 4 weeks ago

My mom doesn't even have a computer. She's already retired so there's not much money to squeeze from that demographic. In my late 20s, 30s and 40s I could build a new computer no problem. I use Linux. There's no going back ever. Unfortunately I use windows at work cuz I'm forced to do that and I occasionally have to help my wife to windows some shit. No, my kids are going down the Linux rabbit hole.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Windows users will add a new PowerShell command or registry hack to the pile of shit to do to clean up a fresh install, and keep complaining that Linux is too hard.

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[-] foggy 7 points 4 weeks ago

Man I have to take this tone with every LLM I talk to.

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[-] [email protected] 50 points 4 weeks ago

I turned it off two weeks ago by installing Mint.

[-] NOT_RICK 21 points 4 weeks ago

For a second I was wondering how the money management app that intuit just killed stopped this for you. Forgot that’s also a distro, I’m a dumbass.

[-] tigerjerusalem 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"oh, just switch to Linux"

Oh, just shut up already. On Linux my fingerprint reader doesn't work, my Adobe apps doesn't run, my Concepts app doesn't run. Not everybody works in IT, and many of us actually run apps other than Office ones.

This shit sucks, and I'll support every tool that fixes and neuters Microsoft attacks to the user space because my work apps are there.

[-] DanTDM 21 points 3 weeks ago

Lemmy users generally subscribe to the philosophy of "if everyone just thought exactly like me then the world would be utopia"

The actual solution is to pirate Windows 10 LTSC IOT from 1337x.to (microsoft's debloated version of W10 for sysadmins, it tends to get leaked) for a usable everyday system. The only Linux setups that are possible to daily drive (aren't unstable) are Linux Mint and an Arch setup with Hyprland if you know what you're doing - anything else has serious issues in my experience. Even if you got Adobe and Office apps running (which is possible in some cases), both the most used desktop environments on Linux (GNOME and KDE) are incredibly buggy messes. Literally half of all 'distros' are just trying to make sure those two desktop envs aren't launching nuclear bombs on your machine

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

I primarily run Linux but absolutely understand the need for things that only work with windows so I dual boot. That being said I use AtlasOS which cleans up W10 pretty good. I don't have any of the crappiness that is currently hitting users.

https://atlasos.net/

Also here's another site that has some information on AtlasOS as well as some other tools.

https://www.xbitlabs.com/best-custom-windows-10-iso-for-gaming/

I know it says for gaming but I use solidworks as well as some other software and my idle resource usage has went way down and it runs so much better.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Agreed.

I tried Solus once back in 2019-ish when I first learned Bash at work because I found it cool. Then came the games that were incompatible with Proton / Wine, and the many painful hours of trying to debug why Mass Effect Andromeda kept crashing after 30 mins of runtime (no solution found). In the end I just swapped back to Windows because I didn't want to do what I already did at work during the weekends.

I like Linux, but until a majority of game developers prioritize development for Linux I'll stick to Windows. I could dual boot Linux and Windows, but I suspect I'll just do everything on Windows in the end lol

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 4 weeks ago

Obligatory "switch to Linux to turn it off" comment.

But honestly, Windows becoming more annoying and actively working against me is the reason I finally switched 4 months ago. It wasn't that Windows is proprietary, or that Linux has some technological advantages (as Windows probably has others) or that I disliked the desktop environment or whatever. It got in my way, and that's disrespectful and time consuming. I don't want my OS to get in my way, I want to do things with my computer.

[-] dual_sport_dork 22 points 4 weeks ago

The irritating thing about all this is, at least if Raymond Chen is to be believed, the OS letting you do what you want without getting in your way was actually a/the core design philosophy of Windows up until probably the end of the XP era. It seems with Vista they started losing the plot, and by the time of Windows 8 Microsoft had fully committed to going completely off the rails.

[-] iopq 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Honestly, Windows 7 was kind of good. It's the last Windows OS I could stand to use because it's the last one that was offline. You could do whatever you want and update whenever you want, there were no ads in the start menu or whatever

[-] GladiusB 32 points 4 weeks ago

I switched to Linux because of this. I'm sick of them pushing some OneDrive agenda. I want a personal computer. Not a cloud connection that a corporation has access to.

[-] cosmicrookie 21 points 4 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

If you're referencing the bypass used on new windows 11 machines they patched it.

[-] arin 7 points 4 weeks ago

I hope the person who implemented the bypass didn't get shit for it. And fuck, hope there's a new way

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[-] Pappabosley 21 points 3 weeks ago

It grinds my gears for so many reasons, but most of all, it creates a huge vulnerability with little or no benefit to the end user. Needlessly adding extra online exposure, just so they can data mine.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends 19 points 4 weeks ago

I had to use a Microsoft account because I really wanted Xbox GamePass on my PC so I can play PC games. It required it on the OS level.

I wish I could say it's not that bad. But it really sucks!

Things like having to restart, or apps/games not working because it couldn't talk to Microsoft servers.

I let my subscription lapse a year ago when I bought a Steam Deck. And honestly hoping Proton gets even more coverage.

[-] egeres 16 points 3 weeks ago

I love how microsoft is becoming more and more supportive of linux!! Thanks

(by making the switch to linux more enticing)

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

I had switched to Linux the moment they introduced Win10 and telemetry back when, with great success. Dual booted for a long time for gaming but even that is no longer needed now since a few years ago. built my first amd only rig in 2019 which was a game changer.

[-] Sprawlie 11 points 3 weeks ago

I made it through until Win11 announced (Had to because of work). Once 11 was announced I just said fuck it, and have been Linux since.

I no longer have any computers in my house running windows except a 10 year old Laptop that is available for the really weird and off windows requirements (like ESPHome programming)

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

It turns off in you install linux

Great success

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

How is one supposed to have a local admin account if it's fucking online. Makes no sense

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

The point is not to help you control your own machine, the point is trying to force people to subscribe to their own machines.

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[-] hark 11 points 4 weeks ago

It's been mentioned multiple times already, but yeah, with each new action microsoft takes, it pushes me toward linux. I'm not currently on linux because I'm lazy, but my next build will be linux since I'll need to install an OS anyway then.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Install Linux and be done with the microshit nonsense.

"Oh but this particular thing requires 20 minutes of my time to figure it out" then take 20 minutes. On windows you took a lot more, you can spare this

But "insert specific hardware or software here" doesn't work in Linux! Then find alternate ways. I've used a Linux desktop for well over 29 years now, I had problems , like everyone else, but I never faced any of this and all the other bullshit from Microsoft. Bluetooth didn't work? I got a different adapter that does have Linux drivers.

Linux is growing bigger and bigger, more companies will support it, just use it. Worst case you change problem a for problem b but at least you're no longer paying to be spied on.

F everything about Microsoft

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

While I wholeheartedly agree with the notion of "switch to Linux if you can", sometimes people can't do this due to obscure work software, specific hardware they can't afford to change, or something else.

I know that being on Linux all those Windows enshittification news appear very distant, but some people literally can't escape Windows for now - it's not only those who are reluctant - and those news are bad news.

For those who consider Linux, though - by all means go for it. You can install Linux alongside Windows (preferably on another physical drive, but same drive will do), and just tinker with it and see how it feels. Don't just toy with it, actually try to use it. As with any system, it might seem a bit weird for your first few hours, but when (if) you'll be ready to make a switch, you really won't look back.

Linux is not just an "ideological" choice. It is faster (you may not notice this on Windows, but even on greatest of computers Windows is lagging a bit, and you'll feel the difference); it doesn't bombard you with anything, it doesn't shill you anything, it doesn't do what you didn't ask, it just gets the job done exactly the way you want it to.

And it's insanely satisfying. Silence and control. For once, you actually are a master of your system.

Choose some distribution that supports KDE Plasma desktop - be it Fedora KDE, Manjaro KDE, KDE Neon or anything else - they will all do. KDE will make your experience way more Windows-like, and it will be easier to switch. In fact, KDE is what Windows desktop wish it could be.

Or, if you feel nostalgic for Windows 7 era, choose Cinnamon-based distros, especially Linux Mint.

And just run it. The time is now.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago

I specifically have Pro because Home doesn't allow you to disable shit like this.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

I personally have Linux because it doesn't have this in the first place.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

the best way to disable it is to install linux

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