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bOtH SiDeZ!! (lemmy.world)
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[-] weariedfae 162 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Man I'm a progressive and even I can tell this is propaganda.

Also, missed a bunch of presidents? Bush 1 after Reagan. Lyndon B, Nixon, Ford and CARTER between Kennedy and Reagan.

I obviously agree with the overall message (that "both sides" is and always has been bullshit) but c'mon man.

Edit: like, you could put the actual campaign goals and summarized impacts and then it would be a real infographic. Like "passed tax cuts for top _% of income earning Americans" "repealed gun laws". It's still cherry picking and biased but that's what moves something like this out of the realm of propaganda and into I dunno...something more like biased news? Bias isn't inherently bad, obviously when you're trying to have an argument you have a side and an agenda.

[-] PugJesus 54 points 4 weeks ago

Edit: like, you could put the actual campaign goals and summarized impacts and then it would be a real infographic.

The point of a meme is to be short and punchy, not academic.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago

This like watching the trope of “Republicans are evil, and Democrats can’t govern” play out in realtime.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 4 weeks ago

What were William Harrison's goals for office? 🤔

[-] weariedfae 43 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

You know I'm not sure if you're joking but I'm genuinely curious now.

Edit: I looked it up and most of what I could find was, "Let's finish killing all the Indians". 😬

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[-] someguy3 150 points 4 weeks ago

Anyone that says Biden isn't doing anything is blind.

[-] disguy_ovahea 87 points 4 weeks ago

Or most likely not reading truthful news.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 4 weeks ago

Tbf, society used to have "news", and many people are slow to realize that while the media still call themselves by that name, they no longer live up to that truth. i.e., not everyone who is blind is purposefully ignoring the truth - there is a whole spectrum of people in the middle.

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[-] fiend_unpleasant 23 points 4 weeks ago

He sure is sucking zionist dick really hard. Some would say too hard.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago

But... he's old! And not perfect!!! So obviously, we should stay home and see how much better our lives will be under Trump when it's his last (legal) term and literally what keeps him out of prison... Duh.

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[-] [email protected] 124 points 4 weeks ago

Okay, I get what you're saying, but to call the Affordable Care Act "Universal Healthcare" is like calling one of those meal boxes from Taco Bell an all-you-can-eat buffet

[-] UNY0N 61 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

While I do agree with what you say, the post is about goals, not achievements. It's an important distinction, and Obama did have universal healthcare as a goal.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jun/11/obama-administration-universal-healthcare-reform

[-] Katana314 14 points 4 weeks ago

Gee, I wonder WHO was taking actions to prevent that from coming out as universal healthcare. And I wonder WHICH SIDE of the aisle they were on.

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[-] apfelwoiSchoppen 38 points 4 weeks ago

Obama also campaigned that he would codify abortion into law, got elected, and then said it was not a priority. Then didn't do anything to protect reproductive rights.

This image is complete propaganda.

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 4 weeks ago

If he is to be believed (and that is certainly up to debate), Obama's goal was universal healthcare, and his compromise was the ACA.

Personally I think as soon as the public option was gutted this compromise failed to meet what was sought out by the goal, so I don't think it should be counted at all as achieving that goal, but I don't think it's inherently disingenuous to make the claim that Obama wanted universal healthcare... I guess he just didn't want it enough.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago

People hate finding out the ACA is the Republican plan based on Romney's healthcare system from MA.

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[-] [email protected] 86 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

To be fair, I don't believe Trump's goal is more money for rich people.

I believe it's more money for himself but to do that he works towards more money for rich people because those rich people will in turn support and fund him further.

He's too damn selfish to actually consider people, rich or not.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 4 weeks ago

Not even money, I have no doubt he just wants to be president to get out of all the rape and fraud accusations running against him.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting 13 points 4 weeks ago

The Romans are said to have conquered the world in self defense. Trump's plan is to ruin it instead. Easier.

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[-] pjwestin 68 points 4 weeks ago

A huge part of Clinton's deficit reduction was eviscerating welfare with the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act. He also made a lot of money for rich people by repealing the Glass-Steagall Act, which directly let to the 2008 financial collapse. Also, Obamacare is not Universal Healthcare; Obama would have needed to keep the Public Option for it to be considered universal coverage. He also made a lot of money for rich people through TARP.

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[-] GaMEChld 63 points 4 weeks ago

I would like to see a more accurate one that actually just listed passed and proposed legislation for each one instead of just circlejerk fodder.

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[-] [email protected] 47 points 4 weeks ago

I remember with each Presidential change, that when a Republican president came into power, they had a budget surplus, created by their democratic predecessor, which they then squandered, and when it was tome to switch to a democratic president, they got a deficit, and managed to work theyr way out of it. Each time, fox would comment on how these Democrat presidents always had a deficit. It was, and continues to be, maddening.

Require news organizations to be truthful again, fuck that "but much first amendment" bullshit, one has nothing to do with the other

[-] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago

Require news organizations to be truthful again,

Faux News has stated in court that they are not a "news organization", they are "entertainment".

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[-] [email protected] 45 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Clinton is one of the worst. The party went, can't beat 'em, might as well join em.

Clinton essentially fulfilled some of the great Republican dreams of deregulation. See Glass-Stegall how he joined hands with Republicans. Which you can then fast forward to the banking and financial crisis that hit the world and screwed economies and brought austerity programs worldwide.

Dare ya to read up on all the congressional stock trading from not just Repubs but very much Dems as well.

The party went fully corporate with Clinton.

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[-] IchNichtenLichten 38 points 4 weeks ago

Don't forget deregulation, those fuckers love removing protections for the environment and workers.

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[-] hark 37 points 4 weeks ago

Democrats aren't for more money for rich people? News to me. Nice job leaving off things like welfare reform, the crime bill, and the repeal of glass-steagall (which led to the 2008 global financial crisis) from under clinton. You left off obama continuing the policy of bailouts for the rich after the 2008 global financial crisis, his support for the surveillance state (and going after Snowden after claiming to protect whistleblowers), and bombing so many more countries (like Libya, Somalia, Yemen, and Syria). Of course there's the glaring absence of supporting genocide under biden, but I think you get the picture.

Both sides aren't the same in all things, but they are definitely the same in supporting the rich first and foremost. Democrats are better than republicans, but you're not making a strong point by pretending democrats only do good things.

[-] Daft_ish 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

In this system money is speech. Not literally, like the Supreme court has codified but in practice. No matter the party the only chance you have in getting elected is fund raising. It's a shit system and no democrats aren't a victim but their is no other credible option.

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[-] AngryCommieKender 35 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Nixon: More money for rich people,

Carter: Peace in The Middle East

Edit: Carter: Climate Change. He installed solar panels at the White House that Reagan destroyed.

[-] grue 26 points 4 weeks ago

Carter: Peace in The Middle East

Also, getting started fighting climate change back when we should've started. (See also: solar panels on the White House etc.)

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[-] [email protected] 35 points 4 weeks ago

OK who let the DNC get a lemmy.world account

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[-] mlg 34 points 4 weeks ago

Saving Democracy

Biden was responsible for removing the democratically elected prime minister in Pakistan because he refused to follow the geopolitical whims of the USA. His entire party is dead in the water with several MNAs assasinated, hundreds tortured, and thousands of supporters still in jail without trial or bail.

So respectfully, fuck off with this shitty propaganda meme.

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 4 weeks ago

I would not say both sides are the same, but this a bullshit oversimplification. The dems are not some ray of sunshine who have only made this country better.

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[-] Aceticon 33 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Clinton repealled the Glass-Steagal act, which led to the 2008 crash, Obama's unconditional bailouts of financial institutions and ultra-low interest rates and subsequent hyperfinancialization of the Economy, the current house prices bubbles, an explosion in inequality, and an even further collapse of social mobility in the US.

To say that he doubled-down on Reagan's work is an underestimation.

Sure, it's all a bit obscure for those who weren't in Finance during the period around 2008, but that doesn't make it any less so.

(And lets not forget his wife's later "got paid million dollar for a speech to a room full of financiers" that helped her loose to none other than Donald Trump)

The idea that almost all those Democrats in that list didn't do "More money for the rich" is hilarious.

Also as an European in a country with a National Health Service, celebrating Obama's version of "Universal Healthcare" is "you're fucking kidding me"-level insulting.

That stuff is some Narnia-level Eyes Hard Closed level of tribalist self-delusion.

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[-] LazyPhilosopher 24 points 4 weeks ago

So glad Obama gave us universal healthcare.... Oh wait.

We all know this is bullshit right? Neither the Republicans or the Democrats give a shit about anything else then making rich people more money. I'm sorry to break it to you but the Democrats aren't your friends. I know they pretended to be but they're not. They are just as much your enemy as the Republicans. 😞

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[-] Dearth 24 points 4 weeks ago

Don't forget Bush the First, the former director of the CIA and his mad desire to run shadow wars to disrupt democracy in other countries in the name of American corporate interests

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[-] givesomefucks 18 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

If you only compare democrats to republicans, every Democrat is going to look amazing.

Like comparing a large McDonalds combo meal to a literal shit sandwich.

I'll always take some Mickey D's in that choice. Even though it's probably been a decade since I've actually ate that trash.

But if those are my only two options for every meal, I know on a long enough timeline the McDonald's is going to kill me. Eventually I got to start asking why my only options are something bad for me and something that's drastically worse for me.

I just want a fucking salad for once. Like, let's just give it a chance, see how it works out.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago

Don't forget Obama's work on a 2015 stimulus for the international Doctors without Borders program that allowed the construction of a brand new hospital in Kunduz, saving countless lives!

For more information, Google "2015 Kunduz Doctors without Borders"

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[-] FontMasterFlex 15 points 4 weeks ago

God, go back to fucking Reddit.

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[-] LordCrom 14 points 4 weeks ago

Don't be blind.... Every President gets more money for rich people in some way or another. Some just also try to help the little man sometimes.

All presidents kinda suck....you can't get to that level of power without some compromise of character

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