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Underpaid high school teacher: “Any questions on the lesson?”
Student: “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
Schoolteacher answer: Wha?
you read the old testament? he is pretty malevolent
As a way to show that the theory is absurd, right? Right?
It’s not even a theory in the scientific sense, like the theory of evolution is. There is no evidence involved, nor experimental data. Intelligent design was created as an “answer” to evolution, nothing more. It could be taught in a theological class, not biology.
It's even better than that... We do have proof of 'intelligent design', except the intelligence doing the designing was people. Virtually all of our food was cultivated over centuries to be the way it is today. We literally forced evolution to happen to make bananas, tomatoes, corn, wheat, livestock, etc.
bananas
I still LOL when I remember Ray Comfort thinking that he really, really had a "gotcha, scientists!" argument when he argued that bananas were designed by a (naturally, his) god.
Pastafarianism needs a revival.
West Virginia learning nothing from Kansas doung the same dumb shit with their board of education two decades ago sounds about right.
Also, it seems that legislators don't know the difference between a scientific theory which is supported by evidence and a layman's theory which is a hypothesis.
Religious extremists will always work to propagate their beliefs by coopting state resources: in this case, the education system. They know their ideas can't stand on their own merits, so they instead work to weasel their way in through forced prayer in school, teaching of religious ideas in science class, and of course, censorship of school libraries. It is theft of our taxpayer dollars to support their proselytization, which is ironic because some of these creeps are the same people raving about welfare queens and food stamps.
West Virginia learning nothing from Kansas doung the same dumb shit with their board of education two decades ago sounds about right.
They learned that they can get away with it, and that's the only lesson these Nat-C's care about.
Intelligent design isn’t even a hypothesis. In order to be one, it would have to be falsifiable.
Anything can be a hypothesis.
In scientific use, a hypothesis must be testable. The word “hypothesis” can be used more loosely in a non-scientific context, but we are talking about a science curriculum here.
We can test for intelligent design. All we need to do is find some evidence.
Since there is no supporting evidence, it fails the test. Just like the hypothesis that the planets affect our destiny or that essential oils can heal people.
Supporting evidence of what though? What testable thing would we even be looking for? Intelligent Design doesn’t predict what the creator is, how to detect it, or what process it uses to create. Intelligent Design has a concept of “irreducible complexity”, but you can’t test that.
Looking for evidence of intentional design.
Intentional design would not include things like terrible spine structure for humans, which is clearly shown to be an evolutionary change that wasn't bad enough to not work out but is also clearly a recent change. Then there are the different animals that went extinct because of evolutionary pressure. Irreducible complexity is shown to be bullshit because we always find the 'missing steps' or gaps in evolution when we find new fossils.
Heck, most of the examples the people who promote the idea are things that humans intentionally changed over time like bananas and corn, which undermines their arguments of some kind of higher power doing the same.
Jesus Christ. This dumb shit, AGAIN? They were utterly humiliated decades ago with this nonsense.
Wow, I really thought we were beyond this. Here we are going back in time 20 years.
While I know the people behind laws like this would never care, here is a video I really enjoy by featuring Richard Dawkins.
That was a good watch, thank you.
The one-sentence legislation now declares that “no local school board, school superintendent, or school principal shall prohibit a public school classroom teacher from discussing and answering questions from students about scientific theories of how the universe and/or life came to exist.”
Seems like a really weird thing to make into a law. Does West Virginia codify any other part of their curriculum into a statute?
"Creationism is not a scientific theory. Next question?"
My thoughts exactly.
So they're not ordering new text books (yet) they're just allowing teachers to bring it up, and answer questions.
Sounds like it will open the door for crackpot teachers, but it's not "being taught" in the school. Definitely a slippery-slope, hopefully not many teachers indulge.
What's amusing is how the Nat C's are confused about what evolution entails - it does not cover the Big Bang or abiogenesis. But if you get into discussions (if you can call them that) with these types, they will typically use strawmen phrases such as "Molecules to Man" in reference to science.
All they usually do is just repeat a bunch of Gish Gallop horse manure that is just quite a thing to behold in its combined arrogance and ignorance.
But but but muh eyes! How do eyes pop out of nowhere so complex!?
Why are there still monkeys if we evolved from them!?
Checkmate libturds!!
I'm assuming this is a Poe, but Ray Comfort comes to mind anyway.... XD
Poe indeed lol I'm torn on using the /s or not, it depends on just how bad I was at making the joke obvious.
“So, students, does anyone have an argument against intelligent design? Yes, Billy?”
“Yeah, the balls are on the outside.”
Yeah, we evolved that way because it's apparently slightly more advantageous to keep sperm just slightly colder than internal body temperature, even though it creates a higher risk of injury. An intelligent designer would have made sperm that can handle warmer temperatures.
Is this happening in states where DNC is in power?
Tell me ' both sides are same' again.
Well at least that will be one group of students that my kids won't need to compete against in college and beyond.
If ever there was a slippery slope/groomer argument to be made.
Intelligent design takes all 20 seconds to explain, 5 seconds if you talk fast.
Don't forget that God planted dinosaur remains into the Earth to test our faith.
Come on! That was a joke! Like when he told Abraham he had to sacrifice his kid to prove his faith and then God jumped out at the last minute and says, "Stop! I was kidding! I totally got you with that one!"
He's such a kidder!
I do not think you need even 5 seconds to say “God did it”
Looks like his noodly appendage is about to reach out to West Virginia.
The solution to these "stealth" ID bills is to recruit Scientologists and NOI teachers to instruct children on the origins of life on Earth. That'd be funny at least.
You see, children, the mad scientist Yakub created white people as an enemy of God. No, No, No, it's Xenu who authored evil on earth by trapping the spirits of aliens in volcanoes.
This sucks for the kids that were already going to fight in the water wars of the 2030s and WWIII, because why not add a new christian crusade to the list.
People working hard making sure kids can get mixed messages in school, while not ever learning about how their genitals work.
Love to just fuck with young people by teaching them absolute nonsense for a year or four.
Can't wait to hear about how the AP Bio exam has gone woke.