Remember kids, EVs are still personal vehicles and they are an unreasonable solution in urban settings. I really wish President ILOVETRAINS would show trains and subways some fucking love.
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I just wish I had some sidewalks man. My street only has handicap ramps at the intersections and then the sidewalk just ends in grass. Like who the fuck does that help?
I wish. My town is an older town, which is great in many ways but sidewalks are not one of them. I think the town relies on developers to put in sidewalks and it may not even be required, which leaves it piecemeal, and no progress in front of older buildings
Getting real money for those means getting Congress on board to appropriate it.
Trains were always going to be the slowest option to implement, but IRA put more money into passenger trains than ever before
…. Too much of it was “$500k to study” in many places but hopefully a step forward
Seems like a stupid move by automakers to delay things 6 years, and EPA for letting it happen …..
- BYD is worlds largest EV manufacturer
- BYD makes affordable EVs now
- BYD announced a plant in Mexico
- no tariffs on cars made in Mexico
Anyone else remember the small car invasion of the 1970s, outsourcing computer chips to Taiwan, outsourcing solar panels (and everything else) to China, throwing away innovations for high speed rail, etc?
Anyone else think the race for immediate quarterly profits is about to lay some doom on American car manufacturers?
Also of note: it's almost always worse for the environment to replace a working gas car with an EV. When it comes time to purchase a new car because yours is dead or too costly to maintain, that's a good time to look at EVs.
Also of note: it’s almost always worse for the environment to replace a working gas car with an EV.
I see this sentiment repeated a lot, and it strikes me as ... incomplete.
If measured at just the individual level this is absolutely true. If you own a current ICE car, 100% of the resources and energy used to create that car have already been expended. Essentially its already been "paid for" in CO2 for the creation of the vehicle (but not the operation of it, for forget that for now). Disposing of a perfectly working CO2 "paid for" ICE car to buy a new BEV that takes on the "bill" of "paying for its CO2" is environmentally negative.
However, this ignores that these actions don't happen in isolation. You don't DISPOSE of your old well running ICE car. It goes to a new owner, not the trash heap. Running used cars have to come from someplace, and people replacing their old dead ICE (or very poorly running) cars may not be able to buy a BEV today because they are still relatively high compared to well running used cars.
I wonder if there isn't actually a net benefit to the environment for folks that want a BEV parting with a well running ICE car. The oldest cars on the road today usually have the worst emissions. Those owners may be hanging onto those old ones because better running, better emissions used ICE vehicles are more expensive and out of reach. So trading in a well running ICE would push down prices on better used cars allowing buyers in that segment to truly scrap the worst polluting cars on the road.
I'd like some real evidence before I throw my full weight behind this opinion and I haven't found enough through my quick google searches. One article supporting this position (which one isn't enough) is here. Its talking about Western nations exporting used vehicles and these are usually the oldest, which are the worst polluters.
If anyone has reputable evidence or articles for or against this. I'm interested in seeing them.
Problem is that a big chunk of new vehicle buyers never run their old cars into the ground like that; they treat 'new car every few years' as a status symbol. And a big chunk of vehicle buyers can only ever afford used cars. So it's important that new vehicles all be electric, and not just some random subset.
Giving automakers an extra three years to keep building gasoline vehicles is not, last I checked, "accelerating the EV transition"...
Big win on making sense by counting plug in hybrids. They're a far better option than full evs in the US right now and for several more years at least. The batteries are cheaper to replace and it makes the ice and transmissions last a very long time before wearing out. Not to mention being able to use your vehicle in times of any large scale disasters that take out power for a while.
Great, now they just need to make an EV that I want and can afford. That Venn diagram has no overlap.
Prices have been dropping for years, and continue to do so. It'll happen.
There are already EVs that are (almost) in my price range. The problem is that I don't like them. I don't really like any of them that are outside of my price range either.