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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by DABDA to c/support
 

I don't know the specifics behind why the communities were (re-)removed but the reasons given in the modlog seem vague enough to apply to anyone linking to Google or YouTube as they reference or indirectly link to piracy:

Removed Community [email protected]
reason: facilitating piracy, referencing websites used for the distribution of copyright infringing material in images

Removed Community Piracy: κœ±α΄€Ιͺʟ α΄›Κœα΄‡ ʜΙͺɒʜ κœ±α΄‡α΄€κœ±@lemmy.dbzer0.com
reason: facilitating piracy, indirectly linking to websites used for the distribution of copyright infringing material

From the initial removal announcement post:

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.


EDITED multiple times due to confusion over origins of the ban.

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[–] nickknack 96 points 3 months ago (3 children)

that’s crazy considering they said it wouldn’t happen again, at least without community feedback. off to another instance i guess.

[–] fustigation769curtain 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. They're liars.

Everyone should jump ship sooner rather than later.

There are clear bad actors on the admin team. There is no hope for lemmy.world.

[–] CharlesMangione 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

the link is dead. probably a coincidence.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Works for me, here's a screenshot:

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] has the situation changed to warrant a change of heart?

[–] CharlesMangione 4 points 3 months ago

That's wacky, I still can't see it 10 hours later, but you and people from my instance can. White screen with "Server Error" as the only text on page in top left.

[–] TrickDacy 4 points 3 months ago

Works for me

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

EDIT: Probably should hold off on pitchforks and exit plans, it’s likely I’m misinterpreting the modlog and it wasn’t Lemmy.World that initiated the ban but the dbzer0 team that did.

lemmy.dbzer0.com has nothing to do with this. This was an action from the l.w admins. In the past @[email protected] was the one who argued to reverse this decision, so πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

[–] DABDA 25 points 3 months ago

Ugh, I just can't win. I generally don't like to edit out (but just append to) stuff I've written but I'm really sorry about besmirching you and your instance due to another user causing me to doubt my interpretation of the modlog. Going to remove all mentions of dbzer0.

Sorry.

[–] PoliticallyIncorrect 36 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Ok deleting my lemmy.world account just right when I found a reliable alternative.

Good luck!!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

I moved to Lemm.ee when they removed these communities the last time and never got back lol, it seems like it has saved me huge headaches (also quick updates and no appreciable downtimes in my experience).

[–] fustigation769curtain 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I moved to lemmy.ca in response to this nonsense.

I'm sick of mod abuse and censorship.

[–] lorkano -4 points 3 months ago

Why don't you just create your own instance then?

[–] Dasnap 33 points 3 months ago
[–] Zak 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Without taking any stance on what the rules should be, I'll re-quote this for emphasis:

we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future

Instead, we have communities banned without a public post or opportunity for community members to engage with the admins making the decision. I joined lemmy.world before it was the biggest instance or anybody's idea of the default because I was aware of mastodon.world and had the impression it was well-managed. I'm starting to lose that impression here, and I don't like it.

[–] fustigation769curtain 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It was good at first, but it's clear corporate interests have infested the admin team.

I don't have any hope for it now and just encourage other people to move to different instances. I just moved to lemmy.ca in response to this.

This is the glory of federation, after all. Don't give abusers power!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago
[–] solrize 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I didn't notice it was gone. Most of what I remember from it was links to torrentfreak articles, which were completely above board. So yeah the silent removal is lame.

[–] fustigation769curtain 2 points 3 months ago

Everything about it was above board, but useful idiots don't like acknowledging how they're being taken advantage of.

I see it all the time because it's the norm.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago

Lemmy.ca is not just for Canadian anyone can join

[–] fustigation769curtain 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Awful decision, but I just moved to lemmy.ca because of it.

Censorship is a bad thing. Let users control what they want to see instead of corporate overlords and their useful idiots.

I encourage everyone to get off of lemmy.world as quickly as possible.

[–] Dremor 0 points 3 months ago

Problem is, with an instance as huge as LW, it has some moderation obligations in many countries that may have opened them to be litigated for multiple millions €, considering its size. It is more a question of survival, not because of some power-hungry admin.

I can understand your point of view, but the TOS is clear about piracy and piracy discutions (see : https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/#41-piracy), and thus they are required to remove those communities if they break those terms (they are legally binding).

Anyone who doesn't want to comply with those TOS can, as you pointed out, move to another instance. It is one of the beauty of the Fediverse. In this case, the one who will be responsible in the case of a litigation is lemmy.ca, and not lemmy.world anymore.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago
[–] NOSin 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sigh Lemmy has the opportunity to do something great, but no.

After sync being abusive with ad banner recently and now this, I'm just done, can't be bothered keeping track of all the bullshit, which instance to go to, which app to use.

I'll just read e-book on my free time now.

[–] fustigation769curtain 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's a shame because there were literally no issues before this.

They only did it because they, personally, do not like piracy.

I see it all the time among useful idiots. They just can't stand accepting that they're being taken for a ride.

[–] lorkano 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No, they did it because they are big enough instance that they are bombarded by companies with takedown piracy requests and lawsuit threats while having like few developers and no lawyers in the team

[–] Dasnap 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

There's been an update.

Just created a second account on dbzer0. No risk of piracy communities being blocked there...

[–] mihnt 3 points 3 months ago

...and back to kbin I go.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

A nice tip for you fellow .world users, your instance has been updated recently and supports exporting, so you can create an account somewhere else ΰΌΌ ぀ β—•_β—• ༽぀

Or you know... You can go back to reddit if you want those kinds of ~~meme~~ communities.

[–] TCB13 5 points 3 months ago

Typical lemmy bullshit. Nice.

[–] cheerjoy 1 points 2 months ago

Over a month with no mod response, wow.