this post was submitted on 06 Mar 2024
312 points (100.0% liked)

tails: A Place for Mastodon Posts

108 readers
1 users here now

A virtual community

Posts from Mastodon users, featured natively in a community, so you can view them without the need for them to be re-hosted or screenshoted, and reply to the original author and Mastodon respondents if you wish.

Has so far included content from Warsandpeas, Mr. Lovenstein, SMBC, Loading Artist, Low Quality Facts, nixCraft, ElleGray, and other interesting or provocative stuff I've random'd across on Mastodon.


Supported:
Comments & Upvotes
Unsupported:
Posts, Downvotes, & PD's Automod

founded 10 months ago
MODERATORS
 

(Originally published on ioc.exchange: 2024-03-05) - Click the Fedi-Link to visit.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 98 points 8 months ago (2 children)

But then how do u type a capital D hmm???

[–] [email protected] 90 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You need a different model of Chromebook for that.

[–] cornshark 46 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That sounds expensive. Can't you just have a friend with a capital D keyboard email one to you?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

How would they email a chromebook? That makes no sense.

[–] oneofmany 4 points 8 months ago

That's piracy and it's illegal!

[–] billiam0202 24 points 8 months ago (5 children)

You jest, but honestly I think this does make sense. It seems rather obvious to me in hindsight that the character on screen should match the key pressed, and to get a different character should require an activator such as shift or caps lock.

One of those, "If I wasn't already used to it being the way it is, would I find doing it this way to be better?"

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But its not in the font I'm typing in. What bullshit.

[–] billiam0202 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You could always get a keyboard like this. It's a large LCD screen with transparent keys on top, so you can program each key to display whatever you want- keys change between lower and upper case when you press shift, for example, or have the font displayed on each key be whatever you want.

[–] Z4rK 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I was sooo close to purchasing one of those (Optimus Maximus), but realized that it would be too dependent on software from a minor actor, so I decided to wait a few years until the functionality got standard on all keyboards.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure letters are capital by default because capitals are easier to read

[–] Windex007 6 points 8 months ago

I'll hold by breath for them to switch the default keyboard to Dvorak

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I feels like, while it makes sense, but the “sense” here is sorta nonsense, the way they write the header sorta assume people is incapable of learning and adjust. Even my nephew/niece learn it without issue.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Now that I think about it, given that lower case is the default option for typing, it would make more sense for the letters to be lower case.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 8 months ago (4 children)

If you asked me, before this, if my keys were capital or lowercase, I don’t think I could have told you.

[–] kernelle 20 points 8 months ago

It's such a non-issue, also having larger and more defined characters on the keycaps also helps people with poor eyesight and the older population.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I looked at my keyboard after reading it because I had to check.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I had to Google ‘MacBook keyboard’ to work it out lol

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 76 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It took me way too long to realise the keys on my keyboard are uppercase. Is this really something people worry about? What happens when I want a capital letter, do I need a different Google keyboard?!

I'm sure someone somewhere is happy with themselves.

[–] prime_number_314159 4 points 8 months ago

I have used a keyboard that had uppercase and lowercase on the keys, similar to how the number row looks with its shift-for-punctuation. It was harder to read, so I didn't like it very much.

On most on screen keyboards, the casing changes as you type for things like the first letter. It's a good way to indicate that in a UI, but it's only necessary because the screen keyboard is trying to change the casing for you. All physical keyboards I've used type the same thing when you push a button, regardless of the context.

[–] PP_BOY_ 56 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I feel drunk reading this. I genuinely can't even make sense of what they're trying to say here.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

I would sincerely hope this is satire

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I imagine this makes perfect sense to people who are not tech savy, which is the primary demographic for selling a laptop that's basically an iPad.

Then again, I know 94-year olds capable of grasping the concept of SHIFT and CAPS LOCK. So yeah, drunk marketing statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Shift came from typewriters. It literally shifted the mechanism over so the keys would trigger a different set of hammers.

And the first typewriter came out in 1868. So this was already old tech by the time that 94 year old was born.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How come when I press the key with an “up arrow” on it that symbol doesn’t appear on screen?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or when I press space space doesn’t appear on my screen where are the stars sundar where are the stars 🌟

[–] son_named_bort 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or when I press tab I don't get a discontinued diet soda?

[–] merthyr1831 4 points 8 months ago

No time for that now, the computer's starting!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago (3 children)

If they really wanted to innovate like this, why not have LED key caps that change from lowercase to uppercase when the shift key is pressed? Much cooler than just lowercase caps printed on the keys by default.

[–] TexasDrunk 25 points 8 months ago

Very cool, and much more expensive than printed keys. Would be neat if they offered one model like that. I still wouldn't buy it but I'd sure talk about how neat it is.

[–] perviouslyiner 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wow it's been a while since https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus was proposed - didn't their prototype get quite hot?

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Some UX is sitting really proudly somewhere, glad his work was featured in the google blog

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just reminded me of the Optimus Maximus keyboard. Dreamed of having one when it was announced.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimus_Maximus_keyboard

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

So cool, the possibilities are endless for something like that. I’d love to see something similar actually make it into production.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I knew google was retarded but wtf. Was anyone actually proud about this?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also the phrasing is so clunky and awkward I had to read it a good three or four times before I worked out what the fuck they were talking about. Initially I thought they were claiming the letters on the keyboard changed between lower and upper case depending on whether shift or caps was depressed. Obviously not, I don’t even know how you’d do that. Written by ‘ai’ perhaps ?

[–] mods_are_assholes 11 points 8 months ago

Get used to it, AI is cheap and almost good enough. Lots of unemployed people incoming.

[–] Maggoty 3 points 8 months ago

They really are just a large company these days. This probably flew completely under the radar until it was published and someone saw it displayed to them.

[–] cloudless 39 points 8 months ago

What happens when AI replaces the marketing department.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Imagine the keys would become capital when pressing the shift key

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I once saw advertised a keyboard that had little screens in each of the keycaps. This was over ten years ago. I haven’t seen it tried since.

[–] NoSpotOfGround 11 points 8 months ago

That would be the Optimus keyboard. I heard it's really prone to failing.

[–] duckwars 10 points 8 months ago

Finalmouse and Flux keyboards are in the works.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Someone suggested that to me because I use Dvorak. Checked it out. I’m not paying over a grand for a keyboard, and when I checked the reviews, once you get past the gimmick, it’s not really a very good keyboard anyway.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] BilboBargains 15 points 8 months ago

If you hammer nails into your head it will hurt like a bitch. But Chromebooks are different - we will also murder a puppy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

Ha, the ß on my keyboard is lowercase.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

I press “esc” but nothing happened. 0/10 literally unusable.

[–] Anticorp 7 points 8 months ago
[–] unreachable 7 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

My board has this problem :(
My keycaps are blank. Lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I BLAME THE APPLE ][ FOR THIS DESIGN BEHAVIOR.

load more comments
view more: next ›