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[–] Nerdybynature 178 points 4 months ago (12 children)

Honestly, might be nostalgic for guys, but as a girl who was playing games in this era, it made me feel like I wasn’t a part of the culture, rarely if ever were there ads marketed towards me, but man were there a lot of half naked ladies. Glad we don’t do this as much, but god this caused a lot of younger girls to feel ashamed of playing games “for boys”.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It really sucks looking at the detrimental effect this had on gender ratios in gaming to this day. It's gotten a lot better but it's still not there yet.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Yeah, we need to level the playing field by having half naked sexy guys on the cover of games. ^please

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Like Fabio? Pretty much any depiction of a barbarian is some muscular dude wearing only a loincloth and his broadsword.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

Doubt that's going to be enough, I think if you want to make a sexually objectifying 90s magazine ad that appeals to female nerds you're going to have to break out the homoerotic innuendos

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago

I was a senior in high school at the time and even back then I thought this kind of advertising was crass, gross, and unnecessary. No nostalgia here, just second-hand embarrassment.

[–] molochthagod 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The weird thing is, as a guy, I never even paid attention to the sexualized stuff in games. To me these are like two different brain activities. So, as far as I'm concerned, there was never any point in this kind of marketing. I've never in my life purchased a game because it featured sexy ladies.

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[–] agent_flounder 16 points 4 months ago

I can imagine. I'm glad this is less prevalent now. Seeing it now in middle age makes me go ick. I wished I had been much more aware of this kind of sexism as a boy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

Yeah as a boy I didn't like these either. They were sexy but made me feel a little weird. I was young enough not to realize it was targeting only boys, but now that I'm older I think that's why I didn't like them. I wasn't in to sex at the time.

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[–] yesman 78 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This kind of marketing ruined gaming culture.

There is a throughline between gendered marketing; the idea that young hetero men owned gaming; and chud gaming culture like gamergate.

The idea of the young horny gamer dude is sexist toward men too. Never mind the accompanying stereotypes of gamers as loosers and nerds.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Nerd blackface.

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[–] Beardsley 74 points 4 months ago (12 children)

I'll fight anyone who says 1998 is retro. I'm getting old, but give me a few more years damn.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Those few years between 1992-1998 were as .. game-changing .. for games as probably the two decades that followed. We started it with side scrollers, Dune and Doom and ended it with Diablo II, StarCraft and Half-Life.

For the kids here who haven't experienced Half-Life, you should play Black Mesa. For the retro farts who have played Half-Life, you should also play Black Mesa. It's the Half-Life you couldn't have in 1998 because of the slow hardware. I weeped from feels playing it.

[–] fluxion 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Blizzard used to give me such warm fuzzies.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

Bro, we lost that fight. I was watching a Youtube video of a guy clearing games from his Steam backlog and introduced one with, "So, many of you watching probably weren't alive when this game came out. Everyone talks about what a classic this is, but I don't think I've met anyone who has actually played this game."

I died a little inside when it turned out he was talking about the first Half-Life.

[–] GrammatonCleric 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You are a bad person.

Why must you be so hurtful.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

We're gonna have to rethink definitions at some point. Yes, video games are still a comparatively new medium, but nobody would call a 2010 film a retro film, nevermind books or paintings.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If in 1998 you would have argued that 1972 is retro, then I'm sorry to tell you that 1998 is retro

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, you're retro! runs away sobbing

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I am retro. You have no power here.

Embrace it! Gonna happen anyhow whether you want it to or not

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

You mean the late 1900's

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[–] jordanlund 55 points 4 months ago (12 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

Oh my god, this is dark.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Bro, using ads in the graveyards this is new for me...

I bet this will make a comeback...

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The early 00s was pretty mysoginistic.

I originally came from a conservative country, and yet there were plenty of ads for softcore porns in TVs and billboards in those days. Even as a child, I questioned why do they show such images in front of full view to everyone.

The thing is, such mysoginy was the norm without us even realising it. I remember reading an article of a woman reminiscing her college days in early 00s. There were pictures of college girls on pin up boards and they get graded on how beautiful they are. The author said no one thought bad about it but looking back, it was very degrading and also invading privacy. There was also the matter of the infamous wardrobe malfunction of Janet Jackson. She got all the public spotlight afterwards because she is a woman, but Justin Timberlake pretty much got away with it for free. JT also shamed Britney Spears about losing her virginity to him, instead of keeping his mouth shut, while Britney was branded as slut.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'm sure in the 2040s, people will say the 2020s were misogynistic too. And they'll be right. Equality isn't here yet.

Progress always seems to mostly march onwards, but you only have to watch Beverly Hills Cop 2 to see Eddie Murphy calling Brigitte Neilsen "that big bitch" like it was perfectly acceptable. And even that was probably considered pretty forward thinking at the time having a woman being cast in an action role, rather than just being fucked or fridged like pretty much every other 80s action movie.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

My favorite old school game ad is one for Quake 3 Arena:

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And people make fun of that one ad where John Romero was going to make us all his bitch.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

To be fair, Daikatana sucked so the ad is mostly funny in retrospect because it didn't make everyone his bitch. If it had, I'm not sure we'd be making fun of it.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Yep, those were different times.

Battlecruiser 3000AD. This advert was later revised and they drew black knickers on the model.

Psycho Pigs UXB. Another British classic?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Well-placed censorship of pictures was the best purpose of a Battlefield 3000AD box. That was one of those games where the drama around it was far better than the game itself.

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[–] samus12345 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I thought they were cringy even then.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

I was hitting puberty, this was prime material

[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Dreamcast ads got real weird. I vividly remember this one ad for Seaman: It showed a pair of feet and a fish tail sticking out from under a blanket. The accompanying text was "I will not mate outside my own species " repeated several times.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I can’t even process what’s going on with the reflection in the mirror being from an angle at about head height over the bed. I like that they didn’t even trust teen gamers to understand the allusion of a woman standing in a bedroom doorway without comping in this extra element.

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[–] Adalast 23 points 4 months ago

Am I the only one cringing at the perspective in the mirror more than literally anything else in the ad?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (6 children)

They were going with a "sex sells" approach to marketing, but what they got was just an unrelatable and cringe piece of 90s trash.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

but why is he wearing a diaper?

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[–] dual_sport_dork 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm still waiting for John Romero to make us all his bitch.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Is there a reason they used the "You wouldn't download a car" font?

[–] Jackcooper 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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[–] CrayonRosary 14 points 4 months ago

and above all - sexy new outfits

The most important part of a game.

[–] CurlyMoustache 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)
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