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Wow, 60 years on and they're still raiding gay bars. Can't express how profoundly depressing that is.
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How's about investigating straight bars where dudes drug girls by sneaking GHB on their drinks or spend the night sexuality harassing and touching girls without their consent?
No, they gotta go after the assless chaps.
Show me chaps that aren't assless.
Exactly. Assful chaps are just pants.
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so, per a thing on NPR radio... it was 4 gay bars and 6 other establishments (presumably that serve alcohol.)
Not gonna say it wasn't harassment - cuz it was. There is and was a better way to handle it, even if the law needs to be enforced at all. I would suggest the purpose behind the law makes sense. I know Minneapolis handles the issue by not giving places that allow nudity liquor licenses, and from experience, drunken horndogs are some of the worst humans you've met.
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Lewd conduct? Nah, that's just locker room talk.
It’s consensual, that’s why Christian’s hate it.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO FEEL GUILT GOSH DARN IT!
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I believe that the Seattle polices sent more retired officers and off duty officers to terrorize people on Jan 6 in DC than any other department in the country.
And let's remember the Washington State Police did nothing to stop protestors from storming the WA governor's mansion.
Seattle is a lovely place. The SPD work at ruining that regularly.
Tear gassing the ciry council members was a signature moment.
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The lewd conduct violations in question were related to clothing that exposed the buttocks and nipples of patrons, which is prohibited under state law in liquor establishments, he said, noting that, in his opinion, the law needed to change to be a reflection of today’s times.
Absolute horseshit. According to the Supreme Court, the pigs have no duty to uphold law, enforce court orders, or protect citizens. We've seen plenty refuse to enforce gun regulations and COVID restrictions recently. Don't ever believe them when they say they can't pick and choose what to enforce.
Don’t ever believe them when they say they can’t pick and choose what to enforce.
Man the Supreme Court fucked up with that one. If the Executive branch can pick and choose that means it is taking on the duties of the other branches. Which breaks the entire concept of Checks and Balances. Who the hell wants that? Judges issue arrest warrants and cops are like "nah", legislation changes the law and law enforcement vetos it.
It is so goddamn depressing how far we've backslid on LGBTQ+ issues since 2016.
If it’s consensual between people of appropriate ages, then the government should have absolutely nothing to say or do.
Weird how the party of freedom and the party of small government wants to take away so many freedoms and put so much government between you and everything else, huh?
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What a waste of resources. These cops could have been looking for actual crimes instead of this bullshit. Wishful thinking, I know.
Something actually risky? They don't get paid enough for that!
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I expect to see this shit go down somewhere like Alabama or my home state of Tennessee or even Utah but Seattle? I thought Seattle was one of these "progressive" cities. What the fuck is going on?
Cops are cops everywhere. Progressive police do not exist.
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It was more than just gay clubs visited all under enforcing liquor laws which begs the question, is this a top priority for Seattle society as surely those same police personnel could have been working on real issues as surely naked nips and exposed ass pants are doing little society harm. Meanwhile, a few more drunk drivers never got stopped. That is the real crime here. Seattle police are distracted with low priority issues. Is this ok with the people living there?
SPD has "limited value" to the small biased sample of locals I know. They're very unpopular in some communities, especially queer/minority communities around where these inspections took place. But as always, many others aren't directly impacted and so they tend to be quietly neutral or supportive of the police.
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They should checkout sniffies.com it's literally a map of guys wanting to fuck other guys. Maybe they can raid people's houses? That'll teach them to not want penises in their orifices right? They are probably drinking while doing it.
I feel like we need to start a m4m for Seattle on Lemmy or mastodon. I actually started r/Seattlegay in reddit but then they banned me. Assholes. Hey if there's such a thing already I would love to partake.
Seattle? 🤔😕🤔😕🤔😕🤔
The authorities in Seattle are brutal to any non-white/non-wealthy people, it doesn't surprise me at all they would also be brutal on non-cishet peoples as well... I think the old money still hates that it turned into a melting pot and the do everything they can to prevent social mixing of classes and races
The reaction by the liquor board is just bizarre too:
"The lewd conduct violations in question were related to clothing that exposed the buttocks and nipples of patrons, which is prohibited under state law in liquor establishments"
Well, you better be ready to show your citations for all the titty bars or you can shut right the fuck up about your "violations".
https://m.yelp.com/search?cflt=stripclubs&find_loc=Seattle%2C+WA
Oddly enough, in Washington state strip clubs do not serve booze. You can have nudity or alcohol, but not both.
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Occupied Duwamish Territory?
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Is this enough motivation to get people out to vote this election? Wtf Seattle!
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i feel like this has happened more than a few times in seattle in recent years.
Yall good?
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OKAY, time for some clarification as a Seattle local:
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This was NOT an isolated incident. The Cuff Complex, which was one of the bars that got raided, had been raided so many times in the past the owner had to put up a sign warning customers not to wear jockstraps because of the heavy enforcement (which ironically caused him to lose even more business because everyone was pissed at the owner for "policing bodies")
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Gay bars were being targeted disproportionately to straight bars. Remember, there are a LOT more straight bars than gay bars. Raiding 4 gay bars covers a sizable chunk of all the gay bars in Seattle, but raiding 14 straight barsis a relative drop in the bucket.
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A gay cabaret club owner crunched the numbers and found his establishment was raided 1,550% more than the average liquor licensee. The owner of the Cuff also owns another gay bar and a regular straight bar. His two gay bars are frequently raided, while the straight bar has NEVER been raided.
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The board that enforces liquor laws is the LCB. Two funny facts: First, the rule against lewd conduct was created by... The LCB, not the state legislature. Second, the LCB stands for the Liquor and Cannabis board, which means that they are already ignoring a law when it suits their purpose (the federal prohibition against cannabis).
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Finally, after the gay community collectively tore the LCB a new asshole during a board meeting earlier this week, the LCB reversed course and basically said "ah shit we fucked up" and is suspending enforcement of its lewd conduct rules. I strongly recommend this Mastodon thread from someone who attended the meeting, it's truly a thing of glory and demonstrates just how close the LCB was to getting slapped with a discrimination lawsuit: https://partyon.xyz/@nullagent/111851872885551640
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