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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by MicroWave to c/politics
 

Four-times-indicted former president Donald Trump has been successfully selling white Christian nostalgia, racism and xenophobia to his base. However, the Public Religion Research Institute’s massive poll of 6,616 participants suggests that what works with his base might pose an insurmountable problem with Gen Z teens and Gen Z adults (who are younger than 25).

Demographically, this cohort of voters bears little resemblance to Trump’s older, whiter, more religious followers. “In addition to being the most racially and ethnically diverse generation in our nation’s history, Gen Z adults also identify as LGBTQ at much higher rates than older Americans,” the PRRI poll found. “Like millennials, Gen Zers are also less likely than older generations to affiliate with an established religion.”

Those characteristics suggest Gen Z will favor a progressive message that incorporates diversity and opposes government imposition of religious views. Indeed, “Gen Z adults (21%) are less likely than all generational groups except millennials (21%) to identify as Republican.” Though 36 percent of Gen Z adults identify as Democrats, their teenage counterparts are more likely to be independents (51 percent) than older generations.

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[–] Municipal0379 164 points 9 months ago (17 children)

I want this to be true with every being of my body. BUT….they’ve been saying this for years about each generation.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m 78 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Same. I’m nearly 40, and I’ve been hearing this since before I could vote, and yet the GOP hasn’t been voted out of existence. If it were up to me they’d be purged from every position of power nationwide.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (3 children)

There were/are a lot of olds. They have dominated politics for a long time and have also not died due to being the first people to take advantage of modern medicine.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

first people to take advantage of modern medicine

I never considered that, and it’s a damn tragedy. We gave the most short-sighted generation the longest lifespan in human history 🤦‍♂️

[–] Ensign_Crab 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, unfortunately they're also the leaded gas generation.

[–] theangryseal 12 points 9 months ago

I mis led. Made pant tast good. I stop eeting pant win led got took a way.

Car slow down to. Never drank gas but huf it alot win I was a teenajer. Dint hurt me and I vote so thare.

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[–] Leviathan 25 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Weren't 2020 and 2022 record years for youth voter turnout?

[–] Ensign_Crab 19 points 9 months ago

Shhh. Democrats can't keep ignoring issues important to young people if they admit young people vote.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Young people are generally far less likely to vote, so which way they vote is somewhat irrelevant.

[–] baronvonj 43 points 9 months ago (7 children)

But Gen Z did have a higher turnout in 2022 than prior generations.

https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/gen-z-voted-higher-rate-2022-previous-generations-their-first-midterm-election

So it be smart to go listen to try and not only keep them at the table, to offer more chairs too.

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 9 months ago (1 children)

“Gen Z adults (21%) are less likely than all generational groups except millennials (21%) to identify as Republican.”

Wow, this actually makes me proud to be a millennial.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It goes to show that those articles that shit on Millennials are just trying to create a division.

Gen Z, we've got your back.

[–] uid0gid0 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So do those of us in Gen X who remember being young. I'm just disappointed in my fellow X'ers who seem to be following "the older you get the more conservative"

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[–] Leviathan 85 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Gen Z needs to get out and vote and get their friends to do the same like their future depends on it, because it does.

[–] AngryCommieKender 12 points 9 months ago

If your state allows it, sign up for mail in voting. Your ballot is mailed to you, and you have a month to fill it out, and drop it in a mailbox. We have it in CA, and I never miss a special election, primary, or general election.

https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/table-18-states-with-all-mail-elections

There are 18 states that allow general mail in voting

Many states allow college students to do absentee mail in voting.

[–] jordanlund 72 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] Pohl 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s really an incredible data point. I am the king of the youth vote skeptics but, 2022 was a great year for young voters. I am cautiously optimistic that a generation of regular voters is coming of age. Most of what is wrong with our democracy can be helped greatly by broader engagement and participation. So much of the bullshit only works because nobody can be bothered to show up to vote for any office other than the president.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (7 children)

My mom was saying how ridiculous it was to think of lowering the voting age to 16.

I said we don’t seem to have a problem with requiring them to become parents at that age, so I fail to see the issue. If you’re okay with forced-birth initiatives, how can you oppose voting?

[–] Witchfire 22 points 9 months ago

A 16 year old has more at stake than an 80 year old

[–] ThePowerOfGeek 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The common refrain I hear from older voters is that 16 and 17 year olds age idiots and don't understand the world. There are a lot of problems with this argument. Among them:

  • 1 or 2 years at that age does not magically result in most people becoming world-wise and informed. Many 16 and 17 year olds have just as good a grasp on voting factors as 18 year olds.

  • Like anything, perspective, awareness, and seeing both the bigger picture and the nuanced details often comes at very different times for very different people. To disenfranchise all 16 and 17 year olds just because a minority might be immature in grossly unfair.

  • Plenty of the older people who argue 16/17 year olds are clueless idiots, and the same people who keep voting for objectively horrible politicians, who blindly follow a political party like it's a sports team, and who vote against their own interests due to gullibly lapping up flagrantly bias and false 'news'. Their judgement is seriously flawed.

As a Gen-Xer I say let the 16 and 17 year olds vote too. Their voices should be heard.

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[–] KpntAutismus 14 points 9 months ago

almost like they don't want everything going to shit, and finally realized that twiddling thumbs won't get rid of these dumbasses.

[–] Donjuanme 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm still voting. They said if my generation got out to vote it would change everything. I don't see why that's different today, not that many of us are gone, and attrition hasn't sent too many to the right, I strongly believe my generations politik power is as strong as it ever was,, and I'm firmly aligned with Gen z. They need our support as much as we need theirs. Don't get complacent thinking the next generation will solve the problems.

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[–] Argonne 21 points 9 months ago

Not if they keep getting all their news from TikTok

[–] MicroWave 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Some additional interesting points in the cited poll report:

  • Gen Z adults trend slightly less Republican than older Americans. More than half of Gen Z teens do not identify with a major party, but most share their parents’ party affiliation.
  • Gen Z adults are more liberal than older Americans. Gen Z teens are more moderate.
  • Gen Z is more religiously diverse than older generations. Gen Z teens mirror their parents’ religious affiliation. Gen Z teens are more likely than Gen Z adults to attend church or find religion important.
  • Most Gen Z Americans, particularly Gen Z Democrats, are more likely than older Americans to believe that generational change in political leadership is necessary to solve the country’s problems. Younger and older generations both express a lack of understanding across generational lines.
[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m 33 points 9 months ago (78 children)

It bothers me that younger Gen Zs find religion more important than older Gen Zs. I’d hate to see all that progress in abandoning religion reversed.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

If the demarcation point is adulthood, it seems reasonable to believe the “younger gen z attend church or think religion is important” probably shows more that their parents make them go than anything.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Hmmm that’s a good point, and I hope you’re right. I just shudder to think that all the conservative Prager U and “He Gets Us” indoctrination and propaganda might be working.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

I think that fundamentalist views come from a lack of knowledge of the religion itself. Seems kinda suspect that your pastor went to seminary and learned that historically the Jews didn’t come from Egypt but the land of Canaan, had zero cultural exchange with Egypt, and did the same things they called the canaanites evil for (looking at you sacrificing your daughter Jepthah), but with a straight face will preach the exodus and plagues to an ignorant congregation.

I was so Christian it became incompatible with modern Christianity, and I’m not the only one.

The truth doesn’t fear the light, or being asked questions and cross examined, and Christian’s fear nothing greater to the point they have to pretend the ultimate evil big bad is creating the questions, and not the lies they told us for centuries.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 14 points 9 months ago (4 children)

https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-gender-gap-young-men-women-dont-agree-politics-2024-1?op=1

But another article shows the males in the generation becoming more conservative. Heck knows it's the male fantasy of control driving the MAGA movement. Gotta keep the women, illegals, liberals, and the rest of the world under their control.

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[–] Beefcyclone 10 points 9 months ago

*anyone with functioning brain cells might be the MAGA movement’s undoing

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