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At least eight people have been diagnosed with measles in an outbreak that started last month in the Philadelphia area. The most recent two cases were confirmed on Monday.

The outbreak began after a child who'd recently spent time in another country was admitted to the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP) with an infection, which was subsequently identified as measles. The Philadelphia Department of Public Health considers the case to be "imported" but did not say from where.

The disease then spread to three other people at CHOP, two of whom were already hospitalized there for other reasons.

Two of those infected at the hospital were a parent and child. The child had not been vaccinated and the parent was offered medication usually given to unvaccinated people that can prevent infection after exposure to measles, but refused it, the Philadelphia Inquirer first reported.

Despite quarantine instructions, the child was sent to day care on Dec. 20 and 21, the health department said.

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[–] Jerb322 138 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Will the family of the child face any consequences? I'd be very angry if my son was infected and they knew all along. Like looking for revenge angry!

[–] FlyingSquid 120 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The part where the parent refused medication that can prevent infection is awful too. Can you imagine being so against medicine that you both risk your child's life and risk leaving your child without a parent?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

They believe in medicine to some degree if they were already at the hospital.

Edit: like those covidiots who only went in after the horse dewormer failed

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Yeah I don't understand why they would go to the hospital and then not accept the treatment. For a diagnosis? How can they trust the diagnosis if they don't trust the treatment?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In the case of COVID at least, they went because they were literally drowning in their own mucus and didn’t have a choice. They only started refusing things when they woke up enough to be delusional again.

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[–] DoomBot5 27 points 10 months ago

At the very least CPS better be involved. I would definitely hope they take your child away if you'd risk your health, the child's health, and the health of other children like that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Yup, they'll get to run for Congress, probably.

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[–] [email protected] 121 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The disease then spread to three other people at CHOP, two of whom were already hospitalized there for other reasons.

Two of those infected at the hospital were a parent and child. The child had not been vaccinated and the parent was offered medication usually given to unvaccinated people that can prevent infection after exposure to measles, but refused it, the Philadelphia Inquirer first reported.

Despite quarantine instructions, the child was sent to day care on Dec. 20 and 21, the health department said.v

It's shocking how far backwards we've gone with respect to basic science... When I was a kid, vaccines were a given. Nobody ever batted an eye.

Fuck Andrew Wakefield.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They should arrest the parents for negligence at this point. If any of the kids die they should get man slaughter charges.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. They should be charged. Adults and unborn fetuses have more rights than children do. A woman can miscarry and get charged with abuse of a corpse, if I drink and drive and kill someone I go to jail but if I choose not to vaccinate my child and the child dies I get a pass?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I agree but these assholes went beyond that and sent their sick kid with measles to daycare when they were explicitly told to quarantine. Like what the absolute fuck. It's beyond words how selfish and disgusting their actions are.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

I don't see how this already doesn't amount to criminal negligence.

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[–] Treczoks 107 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sending a child with a highly infectious disease that is as dangerous and potentially deadly as measles into a day care should be held accountable. This is reckless endangerment of other peoples' lives.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The parents and the child were unvaccinated and the parents refused medication. I'd hazard a guess that they're on that anti-vax esoteric shit.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hopefully DCFS can investigate them then. They are endangering not just the lives of their own child but others too. I would be livid if I was a parent and these idiots got my kid sick.

[–] GladiusB 20 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Agreed. It would be nice if people weren't so pressured to go to work for money that they could take care of children rather than feeling like you need to abandon them for a job. I'm not saying they did this. But over 3/4 of my sick days last year was to take of my kid. And when I had COVID, I was out and the statutes to pay me were gone.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 10 months ago (4 children)

If any subsequent children die due to this outbreak, charge the parents that sent the sick child to daycare with murder.

[–] ripcord 31 points 10 months ago (3 children)

...and apparently did not get the kid vaccinated and refused medication.

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[–] HessiaNerd 23 points 10 months ago

Or charge them with reckless endangerment now and tack on manslaughter charges later.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This should just generally be the case with vaccine refusal. If you refuse a vaccine and kill someone, that should be manslaughter

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago (1 children)

SSPE will fuck up your brain, you do not want measles spreading, get your vaccine if you're due for it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Unfortunately my wife cannot get the MMR vaccine. She essentially has to quarantine whenever there is a case in the area.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Ooof, they got the expensive disease. Measles ruins your immune system, which takes ages to rebuild. In a British study studying religious antivaxxers vs vaccinated children, there was a much higher cost incurred per child for years, lol. They got a lot sicker a lot more often and needed more prescriptions because of what measles did to them.

Measles is crazy infectious too, it's basically like the Flood pathogen from Halo. Getting it in your brain really bumps up chances of dying. Luckily the MMR vaccine gives you lifelong immunity, especially with two shots. So it's mostly just an anti-vaxxer penalty these days. Too bad we almost eliminated it if not for them.

https://youtu.be/y0opgc1WoS4?si=RP7W1uainbdzKc6m

[–] flicker 24 points 10 months ago

I actually had measles as a kid. My parents hadn't gotten me vaccinated when they were supposed to not out of any antivaxx nonsense but regular old neglect.

Lemme tell you. Whoever catches it? Highly unlikely they'll be antivaxx after that. Measles is probably the worst thing that ever happened to me and it's the reason I was the first in line every time I was eligible for a covid vaccine. Me and the old ladies who remembered polio needed absolutely zero convincing.

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[–] anon_8675309 28 points 10 months ago (4 children)

People just don’t care about others anymore.

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[–] blazeknave 27 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Can we deport these deplorables yet? They're uncivilized and a burden on the tax payer funded system.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Deport to where? Who would even take them?

[–] CoggyMcFee 12 points 10 months ago
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[–] RestrictedAccount 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Who do these people work for? Their sick day policies bear a lot of the blame.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Maybe, but a lot of people go to work when slightly sick despite their company having a good policy.

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[–] batmaniam 13 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I know this isn't the point, but I'll never get over that something as big and expensive as world class hospital could be built and they named it "chop". No one said anything?

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