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[–] Badeendje 55 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

That is because the jets and yachts are company provided and the company writes it off as an operational expense. You know, as schools should be doing with school supplies teachers need to do their job.

Companies also don't require their employees to bring their own desk and chair... I know.. do t give them any ideas.. and probably some scumbag employers did this anyway.

This is separate from the fact if companies should be allowed to expense luxury items... Like yachts and jets..

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In Canada, a company-provided vehicle is a taxable benefit when used for personal purposes. This can include if you park the vehicle at home and drive to/from work if you have a fixed office location.

Of course, the rich work around this by making that yacht trip etc a "business expense" and entertaining similarly rich guests.

[–] Cryophilia 1 points 7 months ago

Still fraud, just not investigated

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (4 children)

So many people think "tax deductible" literally means you subtract it from your taxes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

It's still a hefty discount

[–] PriorityMotif 2 points 7 months ago

"Tax creditable" just doesn't have the same ring.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Might as well be, if they use it for work it counts. My boss bought a luxury RV for our company, he's the only one whose ever used it but technically there is a contract if a customer wants to rent it. Not that anyone was ever instructed to actually shill it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

That means it's a business expense, not that you can literally deduct 100% of it from your taxes.

[–] Cryophilia 2 points 7 months ago

That's fraud, you can report it to the IRS

[–] TheEighthDoctor 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Companies also don’t require their employees to bring their own desk and chair

Unless you work from home, then you are expected to have the space, supplies, desk, chair, electricity, internet connection...

[–] Badeendje 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Plenty of employers provide at least some of that and reimburse for the rest. That should be the norm.. and it is still way cheaper than a desk space in an office.

And for employees, the cost saving on the commute makes up for more than the costs of electricity and stuff.

[–] Aux 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not really. The company should pay for everything you need to do your job.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah they should but that's not how it works now.

[–] Cryophilia 1 points 7 months ago

It is in a sane state like California.

[–] Bytemeister 1 points 7 months ago

Check with your boss/HR. My partner works for a University, and they have received an ergo mouse, chair, and motorized adjustable desk for their home office simply by requesting them. Most organizations have a budget for IT accomodations and they hardly ever use it.

Also, if you can get a Dr's note for it, most places will purchase just about any accomodations you need for work. Larger monitors, ergo keyboard, dictation software...etc...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

They're not "allowed to" expense those things. At least, not in the way you mean. Whether or not regulators have an appetite to investigate is another matter.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

In my opinion, companies shouldn't be allowed to expense anything. The entire concept is pointlessly complicated and only serves to favor businesses that can afford to hire teams of accountants. The law doesn't encourage any kind of value adding on the slightest, it's just a game to save money.

[–] singron 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are complicated parts of accounting, but basic expense tracking is simple and businesses would do it even if it didn't affect their tax treatment.

If businesses couldn't write off expenses, it would be nearly equivalent to treating the corporate income tax as a universal sales tax. This would be incredibly damaging to small businesses and benefit behemoth vertically integrated companies, which is probably the exact opposite of what you want.

If you get rid of expenses, you need to get rid of corporate income tax and either replace it with VAT or combine it with increases to personal income tax like taxing capital gains as ordinary income.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Mmmm that's a great point about vertical integration, I forgot about that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

That would basically guarantee that no new business ever survives.

[–] chonglibloodsport 0 points 7 months ago

Companies shouldn’t be paying taxes at all. Just tax the people who own the companies directly based on the value of their shares.